Michigan 2010

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I have noticed a general divide in MI GOP. I beleive it stems from the rivalry of Saul Anuzis and Chuck Yob. Are any candidates aligned with either faction. That could cause a problem if they are aligned with either faction.

It does stem from that rivalry, and no, no candidates have aligned with either faction.  Although I've  heard that there may even be a splitting between the Yob faction.  I'm not sure what's been causing that rift though.

Hasn't Anuzis said he's going to run for RNC chairman?

Yes.  So he'll get the Romney/Anuzis people.

There's curiousity over how the Yob people will split.

Personally, I don't know who I'm backing, but I've always been fond of Michael Steele.

But back to the Gubernatorial topic...

[ShadowRocket]

I guess Cherry is now the favorite to win the Democrat primary with Archer out of the race. I have a hard time seeing guys like Dillon, Stupak, etc. going anywhere.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Phil, as an Italian, hates the Dutch.

Phil, as a sane citizen of the world,....

should like or be neutral on Dutch.

This is coming from a resident of region with close ties to my most disliked group of people. 

Phil
I know you posted this a while ago but I didn't catch it till now. You shouldn't hate other nations or people from those nations just because they are Dutch or French. Do you want Lee Van Cleef or Theodore Roosevelt to come back and kill you?

[Keystone Phil]

Phil, as an Italian, hates the Dutch.

Phil, as a sane citizen of the world,....

should like or be neutral on Dutch.

This is coming from a resident of region with close ties to my most disliked group of people. 

Phil
I know you posted this a while ago but I didn't catch it till now. You shouldn't hate other nations or people from those nations just because they are Dutch or French. Do you want Lee Van Cleef or Theodore Roosevelt to come back and kill you?

I give every individual I meet a fair chance. 

I didn't know TR was Dutch. I also didn't know that President Bush is part Dutch until a few days ago. Terribly disappointing.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Phil, as an Italian, hates the Dutch.

Phil, as a sane citizen of the world,....

should like or be neutral on Dutch.

This is coming from a resident of region with close ties to my most disliked group of people. 

Phil
I know you posted this a while ago but I didn't catch it till now. You shouldn't hate other nations or people from those nations just because they are Dutch or French. Do you want Lee Van Cleef or Theodore Roosevelt to come back and kill you?

I give every individual I meet a fair chance. 

I didn't know TR was Dutch. I also didn't know that President Bush is part Dutch until a few days ago. Terribly disappointing.

TR was of Dutch decent. His ancestors arrived as Farmers when NYC was still New Amsterdam in the early 1600's. George Bush is a distant cousin of TR and thus also FDR.

[dmet41]

I think that one of Cox and Lynn Land should wait to take on Stabenow in 2012. She barely won in 2000 and I feel like she got a free pass in 2006 cause of the debacle of a year it was for the GOP, she will deff. be beatable in 2012.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think that one of Cox and Lynn Land should wait to take on Stabenow in 2012. She barely won in 2000 and I feel like she got a free pass in 2006 cause of the debacle of a year it was for the GOP, she will deff. be beatable in 2012.

I was thinking the same thing myself.

[Flying Dog]

I think that one of Cox and Lynn Land should wait to take on Stabenow in 2012. She barely won in 2000 and I feel like she got a free pass in 2006 cause of the debacle of a year it was for the GOP, she will deff. be beatable in 2012.

I was thinking the same thing myself.

Both of them are termed out in 2010, so I think they may run so they don't become forgotten.

[dmet41]

I think that one of Cox and Lynn Land should wait to take on Stabenow in 2012. She barely won in 2000 and I feel like she got a free pass in 2006 cause of the debacle of a year it was for the GOP, she will deff. be beatable in 2012.

I was thinking the same thing myself.

Both of them are termed out in 2010, so I think they may run so they don't become forgotten.

I dont think sitting out a year or so and than launching a senate campaign will cause them to become forgotten.

[Flying Dog]

I think that one of Cox and Lynn Land should wait to take on Stabenow in 2012. She barely won in 2000 and I feel like she got a free pass in 2006 cause of the debacle of a year it was for the GOP, she will deff. be beatable in 2012.

I was thinking the same thing myself.

Both of them are termed out in 2010, so I think they may run so they don't become forgotten.

I dont think sitting out a year or so and than launching a senate campaign will cause them to become forgotten.

They're not "known" enough as it is.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I think that one of Cox and Lynn Land should wait to take on Stabenow in 2012. She barely won in 2000 and I feel like she got a free pass in 2006 cause of the debacle of a year it was for the GOP, she will deff. be beatable in 2012.

I was thinking the same thing myself.

Both of them are termed out in 2010, so I think they may run so they don't become forgotten.

I dont think sitting out a year or so and than launching a senate campaign will cause them to become forgotten.

They're not "known" enough as it is.

Cox and Land?  Land just put out the special drivers' license program, and Cox has been talked about in the media with the Kwame Kilpatrick case.

[Flying Dog]

I think that one of Cox and Lynn Land should wait to take on Stabenow in 2012. She barely won in 2000 and I feel like she got a free pass in 2006 cause of the debacle of a year it was for the GOP, she will deff. be beatable in 2012.

I was thinking the same thing myself.

Both of them are termed out in 2010, so I think they may run so they don't become forgotten.

I dont think sitting out a year or so and than launching a senate campaign will cause them to become forgotten.

They're not "known" enough as it is.

Cox and Land?  Land just put out the special drivers' license program, and Cox has been talked about in the media with the Kwame Kilpatrick case.

See, the fact that I didn't even know about the Land one doesn't bode well for the rest of Michigan's electorate.

[Dave from Michigan]

Well Hello again!

If Ficano gets in the race he could win the primary. If he gets in. he has a very safe job as county executive. 

As for the Republicans, Mike Cox has the best chance. Thankfully DeVos isn't running, or your looking at  losing by 25% and losing the state senate.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Well Hello again!

If Ficano gets in the race he could win the primary. If he gets in. he has a very safe job as county executive. 

As for the Republicans, Mike Cox has the best chance. Thankfully DeVos isn't running, or your looking at  losing by 25% and losing the state senate.

I still say Land.  She's a lot more popular thank Cox.

[Flying Dog]

I agree. Lynn-Land is much less controversial than Cox. I might even vote for her! (Depending on the quality of the Democratic candidate and how she preforms throughout the campaign.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I agree. Lynn-Land is much less controversial than Cox. I might even vote for her! (Depending on the quality of the Democratic candidate and how she preforms throughout the campaign.

And it's people like you that are the reason I think she'll win.  She won with over 56% of the vote in 2006.  And that was a BAD Republican year.  I think she could win pretty easily, especially now that Archer is not running.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm not familier enough with Michigan politics to tell you how strong they are as candidates, but State Senators Mike Bishop (R) and Gretchen Whitmer (D) are considering running according to politics1.

[Flying Dog]

Mike Bishop is the State Senate Majority Leader. He's pretty much been a total obstructionist since 2007(when the D's took over the state house.) I don't know how strong he is with the establishment GOP (Anuzis, DeVos's, Romney's, Engler's...) I doubt he'd poll very strong as of now.. given how popular our state political leaders are as of now.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Mike Bishop is the State Senate Majority Leader. He's pretty much been a total obstructionist since 2007(when the D's took over the state house.) I don't know how strong he is with the establishment GOP (Anuzis, DeVos's, Romney's, Engler's...) I doubt he'd poll very strong as of now.. given how popular our state political leaders are as of now.

How strong a candidate would Whitmer be?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Mike Bishop is the State Senate Majority Leader. He's pretty much been a total obstructionist since 2007(when the D's took over the state house.) I don't know how strong he is with the establishment GOP (Anuzis, DeVos's, Romney's, Engler's...) I doubt he'd poll very strong as of now.. given how popular our state political leaders are as of now.

How strong a candidate would Whitmer be?

I'd never heard of her, so Bishop beats her on name recognition.  However, I haven't heard any inside rumors that Bishop is running, so I doubt that'd happen.  I have heard more chatter about U.S. Representative Pete Hoekstra (R-2? - West side - I think it's 2) running, but nothing that's confirmed.

Whitmer would also have to overcome the Democrat woman stigma that Granholm will somewhat leave behind (which I don't think is that much of a factor, but a lot of Terri Lynn Land supporters worry about that).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I agree. Lynn-Land is much less controversial than Cox. I might even vote for her! (Depending on the quality of the Democratic candidate and how she preforms throughout the campaign.

And it's people like you that are the reason I think she'll win.  She won with over 56% of the vote in 2006.  And that was a BAD Republican year.  I think she could win pretty easily, especially now that Archer is not running.

What did Cox do that is so controversial?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I agree. Lynn-Land is much less controversial than Cox. I might even vote for her! (Depending on the quality of the Democratic candidate and how she preforms throughout the campaign.

And it's people like you that are the reason I think she'll win.  She won with over 56% of the vote in 2006.  And that was a BAD Republican year.  I think she could win pretty easily, especially now that Archer is not running.

What did Cox do that is so controversial?

Had an affair, but confessed b/c he was being blackmailed by Jeoffrey Feiger (allegedly).  And he was somewhat involved in getting rid of Kwame Kilpatrick, so he really loses any chance of black votes by doing that.

[paul718]

Fred Upton should run.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I agree. Lynn-Land is much less controversial than Cox. I might even vote for her! (Depending on the quality of the Democratic candidate and how she preforms throughout the campaign.

And it's people like you that are the reason I think she'll win.  She won with over 56% of the vote in 2006.  And that was a BAD Republican year.  I think she could win pretty easily, especially now that Archer is not running.

What did Cox do that is so controversial?

Had an affair, but confessed b/c he was being blackmailed by Jeoffrey Feiger (allegedly).  And he was somewhat involved in getting rid of Kwame Kilpatrick, so he really loses any chance of black votes by doing that.

How did he get elected Atty Gen with that record?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Fred Upton should run.

I wouldn't support him - he's too liberal - especially on fiscal issues.