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« on: October 19, 2008, 09:50:43 AM »

OH
McCain 46%
Obama 45%

WV
McCain 47%
Obama 41%

WI
Obama 51%
McCain 39%

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/19/1567070.aspx

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 09:51:41 AM »

Joy joy joy
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 09:51:58 AM »


All looks pretty accurate to me.  Ohio dead even, Wisconsin double digits for Obama, WV a lead, but not a huge one, for McCain.  I can deal with that.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 09:59:20 AM »

Yes John... spend some more $$ here. Wisconsin is ripe for the plucking!!!

Sigh... I am used to being a swing state, but this year there was never that pit in my stomach that Wisconsin could flip to the Reps. Oh well, guess its only the Assembly for me this year.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 10:01:09 AM »

Man, Ohio is stubborn !

It probably depends on the ground game on Election Day - or which party got the better hackers.

FYI: Mason-Dixon will also have a South Dakota poll out by Wednesday.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 10:08:29 AM »

Ohio/West Virginia - "Obama is a black, you see."

Wisconsin - Not really surprising, but remember that the state is tough to poll.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 10:18:36 AM »

Mixed bag for McCain. It confirms tightening in WV and the fact that Wisconsin is out of reach.  However, Ohio is hanging strong and I think if Obama hasn't taken the lead by now then he probably won't on election day.

I'd like to see another FL poll from them, they have consistently had it a 1-2 point race.  I would take that right now.  The problem is CO and VA.

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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 10:22:24 AM »

Obama wins WI easily. McCain wins WV by about 5%.

I still think Obama wins Ohio in the end, most polls show him leading by a few percentage points right now and the Obama campaign will have a better GOTV.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2008, 10:32:42 AM »

well crap.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2008, 10:35:14 AM »


Did you actually believe Obama would carry Ohio?
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2008, 10:36:25 AM »

Did you actually believe Obama would carry Ohio?

Yes, the newly registered voters will allow him to carry the state.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2008, 10:39:43 AM »


Of course Obama can carry Ohio. He has a great ground game and the polls are always very close. It's frustrating to Democrats how the state won't swing past a certain point there like it has in nearly every other contested state, but it doesn't mean we expect to lose, although it's a reasonable possibility.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2008, 10:40:47 AM »

One thing I do remember about Ohio is that both Sherrod Brown and Ted Strickland outperformed their poll numbers on Election Day 2006. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2008, 10:41:05 AM »

Did you actually believe Obama would carry Ohio?

Yes, the newly registered voters will allow him to carry the state.

You mean those 200,000 registrations that don't match SSN's?
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2008, 10:41:34 AM »

One thing I do remember about Ohio is that both Sherrod Brown and Ted Strickland outperformed their poll numbers on Election Day 2006. 

Or that John Kerry underperformed.
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2008, 10:43:37 AM »

One thing I do remember about Ohio is that both Sherrod Brown and Ted Strickland outperformed their poll numbers on Election Day 2006. 

One thing I do remember about Ohio is that Obama under-performed his poll numbers on Super Tuesday.
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2008, 10:45:16 AM »

Did you actually believe Obama would carry Ohio?

Yes, the newly registered voters will allow him to carry the state.

You mean those 200,000 registrations that don't match SSN's?

It's not SSNs, it's any character that appears in the name or address, including that of "Joe the Plumber" whose name is misspelled in some state records.
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2008, 10:46:11 AM »


Appropriately lukewarm numbers for each candidate.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2008, 10:46:23 AM »

One thing I do remember about Ohio is that both Sherrod Brown and Ted Strickland outperformed their poll numbers on Election Day 2006. 

One thing I do remember about Ohio is that Obama under-performed his poll numbers on Super Tuesday.

Primary polling is inherently more volatile than general election polling, because people are much more likely to change their minds within a party than across party lines.

I'll raise you Al Gore, who also overperformed his poll numbers in Ohio in 2000.
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2008, 10:48:17 AM »

Obama wins WI, McCain wins OH and WV, just as expected.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2008, 10:50:27 AM »

Obama wins WI, McCain wins OH and WV, just as expected.

I agree. Now my question is , Is Virginia and North Carolina for the first time in a century gonna be more democratic than Ohio?
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2008, 10:52:54 AM »

Did you actually believe Obama would carry Ohio?

Yes, the newly registered voters will allow him to carry the state.

You mean those 200,000 registrations that don't match SSN's?

It's not SSNs, it's any character that appears in the name or address, including that of "Joe the Plumber" whose name is misspelled in some state records.

Okay, you can stake your hopes on these "new voters" and see if you win Ohio.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2008, 10:53:17 AM »

Obama wins WI, McCain wins OH and WV, just as expected.

I agree. Now my question is , Is Virginia and North Carolina for the first time in a century gonna be more democratic than Ohio?

Both states were more Democratic than Ohio as recently as 1992.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2008, 10:59:17 AM »


Is McCain at 46% supposed to worry us?
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2008, 11:02:35 AM »

Mixed bag for McCain. It confirms tightening in WV and the fact that Wisconsin is out of reach.  However, Ohio is hanging strong and I think if Obama hasn't taken the lead by now then he probably won't on election day.
So you agree that McCain won't win any Kerry/Gore states, Nevada, Colorado and Virginia?
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