WV-PPP: McCain beats Obama by 8

[Tender Branson]

McCain - 50
Obama - 42

Right now he leads McCain with voters in his own party just 62-29, at the same time that McCain is nailing down 85% of the Republican vote. McCain also has a strong advantage with independents, 53-36.

PPP surveyed 1,223 likely voters on October 16th and 17th. The survey’s margin of error
is +/-2.8%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed and weighting, may introduce
additional error that is more difficult to quantify.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_WV_1018.pdf

[TheGlobalizer]

McCain - 50
Obama - 42

Right now he leads McCain with voters in his own party just 62-29, at the same time that McCain is nailing down 85% of the Republican vote. McCain also has a strong advantage with independents, 53-36.

PPP surveyed 1,223 likely voters on October 16th and 17th. The survey’s margin of error
is +/-2.8%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed and weighting, may introduce
additional error that is more difficult to quantify.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_WV_1018.pdf

I'm not in love with PPP, but this is about where I see WV today.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I hope this settled down the people that are claiming WV will be extremely close or an Obama state on election night because of 1 ARG poll.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I hope this settled down the people that are claiming WV will be over 60% for McCain or one of his best states.

[MR maverick]

I hope this settled down the people that are claiming WV will be extremely close or an Obama state on election night because of 1 ARG poll.

Well you knew the racist would come home for this sad sack of a state.  

West VA = Wrong turn people.

[Mr. Morden]

Wait, wait.  Does this mean that ARG might have been wrong?

On a semi-related note, I'm hoping someone will give us another Arkansas poll one of these days, as I'm curious as to where things stand there now.  Last poll out of there was in mid-September, and the national picture has changed a lot since then.  Does Obama have a realistic chance of holding McCain's victory margin down to <5% there?

[Alcon]

Wait, wait.  Does this mean that ARG might have been wrong?

On a semi-related note, I'm hoping someone will give us another Arkansas poll one of these days, as I'm curious as to where things stand there now.  Last poll out of there was in mid-September, and the national picture has changed a lot since then.  Does Obama have a realistic chance of holding McCain's victory margin down to <5% there?

I had Arkansas somewhere in the mid-single digits before this poll, but then again I had West Virginia a bit below that.

I want a new AR poll, too.

[Eraserhead]

Undecideds will probably break strongly for McCain here. Obama will probably do better than Kerry at least though.

It looks like hype surrounding this one was not completely justified. This is exactly why we should never take polling from ARG and IA seriously.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

But this should at least disprove the absolutely beyond idiotic braindead crap about how this would be one of McCain's top 5 states and better than Idaho/Utah and how he would win every county, etc. All that garbage has been seriously posted on this forum.

[Eraserhead]

But this should at least disprove the absolutely beyond idiotic braindead crap about how this would be one of McCain's top 5 states and better than Idaho/Utah and how he would win every county, etc. All that garbage has been seriously posted on this forum.

Most of it was posted months and months ago. It was kind of stupid, even then, but I don't seriously think anyone is still predicting that McCain will break 60% in WV.

[MR maverick]

But this should at least disprove the absolutely beyond idiotic braindead crap about how this would be one of McCain's top 5 states and better than Idaho/Utah and how he would win every county, etc. All that garbage has been seriously posted on this forum.

Other than blacks in my town/ county McCain has 99% of the vote.  These are the same people who thought he had a black baby in 2000 ironically enough.

I don't see why McCain would carry every county in West Va... are their any Obama strong holds?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

But this should at least disprove the absolutely beyond idiotic braindead crap about how this would be one of McCain's top 5 states and better than Idaho/Utah and how he would win every county, etc. All that garbage has been seriously posted on this forum.

Other than blacks in my town/ county McCain has 99% of the vote.  These are the same people who thought he had a black baby in 2000 ironically enough.

I don't see why McCain would carry every county in West Va... are their any Obama strong holds?

Where in South Carolina do you live?

[MR maverick]

Anderson

[Ty440]

Anderson

I was down close that way on Company business a few months ago , Pickens SC,  what struck my as odd is everyone had bad teeth, do the employers down there not provide dental insurance?

Now the women in downtown Greenville is another story My, My My,

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Anderson

I was down close that way on Company business a few months ago , Pickens SC,  what struck my as odd is everyone had bad teeth, do the employers down there not provide dental insurance?

Now the women in downtown Greenville is another story My, My My,

The women in Charleston are some of the best in the country.

[Ty440]

Anderson

I was down close that way on Company business a few months ago , Pickens SC,  what struck my as odd is everyone had bad teeth, do the employers down there not provide dental insurance?

Now the women in downtown Greenville is another story My, My My,

The women in Charleston are some of the best in the country.

My experience down there was either the women were drop dead gorgeous , or looked like they were beat with an ugly stick, there was no in between, and a ton  of overweight women too, must be that good southern food.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Anderson

I was down close that way on Company business a few months ago , Pickens SC,  what struck my as odd is everyone had bad teeth, do the employers down there not provide dental insurance?

Now the women in downtown Greenville is another story My, My My,

The women in Charleston are some of the best in the country.

My experience down there was either the women were drop dead gorgeous , or looked like they were beat with an ugly stick, there was no in between, and a ton  of overweight women too, must be that good southern food.

You must have been in the wrong area. The girls at the College of Charleston are amazing. I am normally downtown in the ritzy areas, so maybe that's why.

[Associate Justice PiT]

But this should at least disprove the absolutely beyond idiotic braindead crap about how this would be one of McCain's top 5 states and better than Idaho/Utah and how he would win every county, etc. All that garbage has been seriously posted on this forum.

Most of it was posted months and months ago. It was kind of stupid, even then, but I don't seriously think anyone is still predicting that McCain will break 60% in WV.

     I guess I'll own up & admit that I was one of the people predicting a McCain landslide in WV.

[MR maverick]

Anderson

I was down close that way on Company business a few months ago , Pickens SC,  what struck my as odd is everyone had bad teeth, do the employers down there not provide dental insurance?

Now the women in downtown Greenville is another story My, My My,

The women in Charleston are some of the best in the country.

My experience down there was either the women were drop dead gorgeous , or looked like they were beat with an ugly stick, there was no in between, and a ton  of overweight women too, must be that good southern food.

You must have been in the wrong area. The girls at the College of Charleston are amazing. I am normally downtown in the ritzy areas, so maybe that's why.

We like our women a little on trashy side and some meat on their bones. LOL

No, really iam from Orlando Fl been here for a good while. Its a good place untill election time then people get all worked up start using the N word again.

Damn GOP dividing the country to win elections ticks me off more then anything.

[Democratic Hawk]

A pragmatic Christian Democrat, which is what Obama is on economic and quality of life issues shouldn't be that hard a sell. It's not like WV hasn't voted to elect them before

Still, if they want more of the same, they'll vote McCain; if not they'll vote Obama

Dave

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Undecideds will probably break strongly for McCain here.

More likely is that they just won't vote.

[Rowan]

FYI, some genius put this into the database under Public Opinion Strategies instead of Public Policy Polling.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

FYI, some genius put this into the database under Public Opinion Strategies instead of Public Policy Polling.

Fixed.  My bad

[JohnCA246]

Dems should drop this state for the most part.  I really really want to win it, but its not going to be a tipping point.  Worry about getting 270, not blowouts.

[War on Want]

Dems should drop this state for the most part.  I really really want to win it, but its not going to be a tipping point.  Worry about getting 270, not blowouts.

I disagree, this could certainly be a tipping point if we wanted it to be, and with some effort.