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Barack Hussian YO MAMA!!!!
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« on: October 01, 2008, 08:19:16 PM »

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
I suggest that if you get some time you sit down and watch this movie, I saw this movie about
a year ago and it scared the living day lights out of me, its a very provocative movie to say the least



 The Movie is broken down into three parts
this is from Wikipedia.


The film's first section, called "The Greatest Story Ever Told", denounces the originality of many world religions, arguing they are mainly derived from astrological myths and traditions established long before them. In furtherance of the Jesus myth hypothesis, this part argues that the historical Jesus is a literary and astrological hybrid,[6] nurtured politically in the interest of control.

Horus, the Egyptian Sun God, is introduced as having a number of attributes similar to many other religious deities which came after him, including but not limited to Attis, Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra and Jesus Christ; these attributes including virgin birth on December 25th, 12 disciples, burial for 3 days and resurrection and performing of miracles.[10]

The film offers that the explanation for these common attributes is astrology, for example: death, burial for 3 days and resurrection is cited as being based on the winter solstice, where the Sun's peak reaches its lowest point in the sky, resides there perceivably for 3 days, and starts to move north, symbolizing the rebirth of the all-powerful creator. Another Christian-astrological similarity highlighted is the way the three stars in Orion's belt (called the "Three Kings") align with Sirius on December 25th, the brightest star in the sky, and point to the Sun's rise on the horizon. This is equated to the Nativity of Jesus, where three kings follow the star in the east to locate the birth of Jesus.

Christianity is then said to be a Gnostic myth, historized by the Roman Empire for social control of Europe through doctrines established at the First Council of Nicea. The Dark Ages, the Inquisitions and the Crusades are given as events which maintained Europe's submission to The Vatican through Christianity.

The following quote is said in conclusion:
“    Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems [...] empowers those who know the truth, but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. [...] It reduces human responsibility to the effect that "God" controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit. [...] The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created, and serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish.    ”

[edit] Part II
The 9/11 attacks are shown as a staged event which has acted as a pretext for imperial mobilization
The 9/11 attacks are shown as a staged event which has acted as a pretext for imperial mobilization

The second part of the documentary, entitled "All the World's a Stage", claims 9/11 was engineered to generate mass fear, initiate and justify the War on Terror, remove civil liberties from the general public, and for economic gain. The claims are followed by the immediate on-screen sourcing of clips from notable and credible television news, and clippings from notable and credible newspapers and magazines (shown on screen) to advance the claims that the United States government was warned about the impending September 11, 2001 attacks, that the planes were allowed to reach their targets, and that the World Trade Center buildings underwent a controlled demolition; basically that the events of Sept 11th 2001 were either orchestrated by, or allowed to happen by, a criminal element in the United States government. The film also gives a tour of notable and credible media to support the claims that six of the named hijackers are still alive, that Hani Hanjour could not have flown Flight 77 into the Pentagon, that no substantial plane wreckage was found at any of the three crash sites, that the Bush Administration covered up the truth in the 9/11 Commission Report, and that the mainstream media has failed to ask important questions about the official account.

[edit] Part III
The Federal Reserve's income tax is claimed to be unconstitutional and that there are no laws which state that citizens must pay the tax
The Federal Reserve's income tax is claimed to be unconstitutional and that there are no laws which state that citizens must pay the tax

The third part is called "Don't Mind the Men Behind the Curtain", a reference to the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz. The four main wars of the United States' 20th century are argued by the film to have been started or engaged in purely to further the economic strength of a group of men. Events attempted to be exposed as fraudulent or staged are the sinking of the RMS Lusitania, the Attack on Pearl Harbor, and the Gulf of Tonkin Incident; all occurrences which carried the U.S into the First World War, Second World War and Vietnam War respectively.

According to the film, the U.S. was forced by the Federal Reserve Bank to become embroiled in these wars not to win but to sustain conflict, as it forces its government to borrow more money from the bank, with interest attached, thereby increasing the nation's debt. The film gives a history of the Reserve, claiming it engineered the Great Depression to steal wealth from the American population and was responsible for the attempts to assassinate Louis McFadden, a congressman who attempted to impeach the Reserve.

This section also explores the possibility that there is a clandestine movement, promoted by the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, to usurp the American constitution and US dollar, by merging the United States, Canada and Mexico into a North American Union that uses a single currency, the Amero, without the ratification of Congress. This currency union would create a super-state similar to the European Union, which together with the African Union and the proposed Asian Union would gradually be merged into a One World government. The movie concludes that under such a government, every human could be implanted with a RFID microchip which would be used to monitor individuals and suppress dissent. The movie ends, however, on an optimistic note, expressing confidence in the possibility of overthrowing oppressive forces and the ultimate triumph of revolution through enlightenment.

[edit] Part IV

The fourth part, the Addendum, is titled "The Revolution is Now" and will premiere at the 5th Annual Artivist's Film Festival in Los Angeles, California on October 2, 2008. It will address "the true source of the instability in our society, while offering the only fundamental, long term solution."[11]
 

I know that this movie subject matter is provacative and but at least try to have in open mind,
please tell me if you have seen the movie and if you haven't watch it and tell me your thoughts.   

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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 08:22:44 PM »

I've seen it several times.  Toward the end, it makes no real sense whatsoever.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 08:40:55 PM »

I've seen it several times.  Toward the end, it makes no real sense whatsoever.
what did you think of it did you think it was all bull crap? I thought the end was the best part.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 09:18:06 PM »

I've seen it several times.  Toward the end, it makes no real sense whatsoever.
what did you think of it did you think it was all bull crap? I thought the end was the best part.

The end uses ridiculously obscuro and incomplete citations that are impossible to verify.

Laziness, sloppiness, intellectually dishonesty?  Probably a little of all three.  Not going to consider a work if it goes out of its way to be unverifiable.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 07:54:37 PM »

Uh... huh...
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