What state should be thrown out of the union?
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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2004, 08:12:05 AM »

I've thought that before Opebo.

However, I think Idaho should be thrown out. They could finally create their 4th reich.
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2004, 12:42:36 PM »

California could easily survive on it's own. It would have the sixth largest economy in the world if independent.


Actually, I think they are either fourth or fifth largest aren't they?
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2004, 01:10:02 PM »


Last I heard, it was the fifth largest.
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2004, 05:03:16 PM »

Places like California and East Coast states subsidize poor states, mainly in the South and Plains.  It is interesting that the Dem-leaning states bear the tax burden and the GOP-leaning states get the benefit of government spending.
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2004, 05:34:53 PM »

States like Wyoming get that benefit.

Virginia could outpower all other 49 states in a decade! Er, maybe...
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« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2004, 11:36:08 AM »

Normally, I'd say that I also think every citizen should have representation. Since it's DC, I don't honestly care.

And Virginia will NEVER accept DC. We're giving it to Maryland.
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2004, 11:57:57 AM »

Most of history's problems were caused by people who cared.

The district should be redrawn so that the residential areas are part of Maryland and the population is zero. Then it can be a nonpolitical capital again, as was intended.
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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2004, 03:07:12 PM »



Virginia took back Arlington.  Maryland can take back DC.  Otherwise, it would be just one more reason for Virginia and Maryland to fight each other regarding the rights to the Potomac River.

However, on a side note, I am in favor of making DC residents honorary residents of Maryland for voting, taxes, etc.  DC can never support itself as a "state," no matter what the states-rights groups want you to believe.  Additionally, I am not in favor of having people residing in our nations capital that are not a part of the government.  DC was to be the home of the government, as well as house the government officials.  Spending millions upon millions of Federal dollars to provide for non-government residents services is archaic.  Give them back to Maryland.
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2004, 06:32:44 PM »

I would say none, but for fun's sake I'll say California.

Anybody who elects an "actor" whose stance on every issue is "I support dis and dat and things of dat matta" should be axed from the world.
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2004, 09:26:02 AM »

Alaska - then ANWR will be developed.
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2004, 02:24:35 PM »

Most of history's problems were caused by people who cared.

The district should be redrawn so that the residential areas are part of Maryland and the population is zero. Then it can be a nonpolitical capital again, as was intended.
It's a wise, and intriguing, option...although I don't really see why you don't just give all of it back to Maryland (lots of government offices outside DC already...the Pentagon is in Virginia)but
I don't believe that's the way it was intended. Why'd they add a previously existing city (Alexandria) when they created DC if they intended it to be unpopulated? Doesn't make sense.
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2004, 08:05:27 PM »

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I don't believe that's the way it was intended. Why'd they add a previously existing city (Alexandria) when they created DC if they intended it to be unpopulated? Doesn't make sense.
In the 1810 census, DC consisted of
District 24,023
   Washington County 15,471
          Washington city 8,208
          Georgetown city 4,988
          remaider 2,315
   Alexandria County 8,552

The constitution provided for a district of 10 miles square, which would have been a tremendous size for a city at the time, so it was likely intended to be more than afew buildings.  And they wanted it to be a separate jurisdiction, so noone would be under the control of a state in their daily coming and going.  Nowadays, it would the equivalent of the entire metropolitan area.

But it has shown that it doesn't matter than many in Congress live in the adjacent states, or the many government workers or even important offices like the Pentagon.  In addition, there are government offices all over the country, any number of which are bigger than what was envisioned for the capital in 1789.  So there is no longer the need for a separate jurisdiction, but rather only for the actual buildings.
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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2004, 04:36:45 AM »

Texas - should say thank you to those that freed them in the Alamo. Naughty American Propagandinists.

Has cheap gas when everyone else has to pay a fortune. Is the home of Americas first Imperalistic dictator that im sure will do more invading once he bribes the electorate with propaganda from talkradio/ karl rove and misleading lines "i voted for it then i voted against".  Bush voted against it before voting for it.

Michael Badnarik the real honest man who wants to bring dignity/respect back into this countries spine not chickeness.
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2004, 08:14:00 PM »

Utah
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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2004, 09:21:39 PM »

Where's MA?  Those damn hippie liberals should all leave America
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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2004, 09:26:15 PM »

Alaska - then ANWR will be developed.
Yeah, but then we'd have to pay. Who knows, they could even join OPEC.
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2004, 01:53:57 PM »

Technically, I think Alaska could already join OPEC, unless Congress specifically passed a trade resolution striking it down.
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