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« on: September 20, 2008, 08:50:56 PM »



which candidate will win the region as a whole...and which candidate will win each sub-region?
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2008, 08:52:59 PM »

McCain will win all three.

He will win by a 2:1 margin in the south, about 60-38 in the central and 55-45 in the north.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 08:54:37 PM »

This thread is meant as a joke, right? You can't be serious.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2008, 08:55:36 PM »

McCain will win all three.

He will win by a 2:1 margin in the south, about 60-38 in the central and 55-45 in the north.

a democrat shouldnt lose in central appalachia.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2008, 08:57:21 PM »

Yes, and if said Democrat were from central Appalachia, I'm sure he'd win it.

This is Obama.  He will not win central Appalachia no matter how much he "should".
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2008, 09:05:12 PM »

Yes, and if said Democrat were from central Appalachia, I'm sure he'd win it.

This is Obama.  He will not win central Appalachia no matter how much he "should".

there was a candidate named clinton who won central appalachia.  ;ast i checked, he isnt from there.

gore either won it, or came very close to winning it.

hell even dukakis did relatively well there.

and please dont play the race card, which seems to be the default excuse of the obama supporters.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2008, 09:13:26 PM »

Obama is a bad fit for Appalachia; Bill was a good candidate, which is why he won.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2008, 09:16:59 PM »

McCain will win all three.

He will win by a 2:1 margin in the south, about 60-38 in the central and 55-45 in the north.

a democrat shouldnt lose in central appalachia.

Well, you obviously know who will win central Appalachia and why... so why are you asking us?

What do you want me to say?  "Yeah, Obama is going to lose bad in Appalachia cuz he's just a giant piece of sh**t."

Whatever makes you sleep well at night, Walter...
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2008, 09:17:44 PM »

Democrats never win Appalachia. It's a republican area for presidential contests.
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2008, 09:19:26 PM »


incorrect.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2008, 09:21:49 PM »

Obama is a bad fit for Appalachia; Bill was a good candidate, which is why he won.
Nah, there are much better. Mondale was probably a better fit than Clinton, besides the fact he didn't have a southern accent and everything went perfectly for Reagan. Sure he was quirky but the type of Democrat that would do best in Appalachia would probably be a union, working class type from West Virginia or Kentucky.

Clinton was still good but only because of his accent. If he was from Iowa, he wouldn't near as good in the south.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2008, 09:25:16 PM »

Obama is a bad fit for Appalachia; Bill was a good candidate, which is why he won.


Clinton was still good but only because of his accent. If he was from Iowa, he wouldn't near as good in the south.

tom harkin would do well in appalachia, central appalachia in particular.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2008, 09:28:41 PM »

Obama is a bad fit for Appalachia; Bill was a good candidate, which is why he won.


Clinton was still good but only because of his accent. If he was from Iowa, he wouldn't near as good in the south.

tom harkin would do well in appalachia, central appalachia in particular.
No sh!t, that's because he was a super working class Democrat and actually sticks up for unions. Clinton did nothing for them really, and I was talking about him in particular. He has an economic policy not far from Tsongas really.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2008, 09:30:49 PM »

Yes, and if said Democrat were from central Appalachia, I'm sure he'd win it.

This is Obama.  He will not win central Appalachia no matter how much he "should".

there was a candidate named clinton who won central appalachia.  ;ast i checked, he isnt from there.

gore either won it, or came very close to winning it.

hell even dukakis did relatively well there.

and please dont play the race card, which seems to be the default excuse of the obama supporters.

If the shoe fits...

Obama is likely to do worse than the average Democrat in Appalachia, and yes, it is due to race.  Take a look at how well Harold Ford did in eastern Tennessee, for an example.
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2008, 09:33:41 PM »

Yes, and if said Democrat were from central Appalachia, I'm sure he'd win it.

This is Obama.  He will not win central Appalachia no matter how much he "should".

there was a candidate named clinton who won central appalachia.  ;ast i checked, he isnt from there.

gore either won it, or came very close to winning it.

hell even dukakis did relatively well there.

and please dont play the race card, which seems to be the default excuse of the obama supporters.

If the shoe fits...

Obama is likely to do worse than the average Democrat in Appalachia, and yes, it is due to race.  Take a look at how well Harold Ford did in eastern Tennessee, for an example.

what democrat does do well in east tennessee?  that goes back to civil war.

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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2008, 09:36:26 PM »

Yes, and if said Democrat were from central Appalachia, I'm sure he'd win it.

This is Obama.  He will not win central Appalachia no matter how much he "should".

there was a candidate named clinton who won central appalachia.  ;ast i checked, he isnt from there.

gore either won it, or came very close to winning it.

hell even dukakis did relatively well there.

and please dont play the race card, which seems to be the default excuse of the obama supporters.

If the shoe fits...

Obama is likely to do worse than the average Democrat in Appalachia, and yes, it is due to race.  Take a look at how well Harold Ford did in eastern Tennessee, for an example.

what democrat does do well in east tennessee?  that goes back to civil war.


Yeah...
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 09:51:26 PM »

Yes, and if said Democrat were from central Appalachia, I'm sure he'd win it.

This is Obama.  He will not win central Appalachia no matter how much he "should".

there was a candidate named clinton who won central appalachia.  ;ast i checked, he isnt from there.

gore either won it, or came very close to winning it.

hell even dukakis did relatively well there.

and please dont play the race card, which seems to be the default excuse of the obama supporters.

If the shoe fits...

Obama is likely to do worse than the average Democrat in Appalachia, and yes, it is due to race.  Take a look at how well Harold Ford did in eastern Tennessee, for an example.

what democrat does do well in east tennessee?  that goes back to civil war.



Did I say that Democrats do well in eastern Tennessee?  Harold Ford did worse than other recent Democratic candidates for federal office.  He did worse in eastern Tennessee than Clement in 2002 even though Ford came much closer than Clement to actually winning the state.  Why is that?  What was so different about Harold Ford?
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2008, 10:01:49 PM »

What color is the sky?
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2008, 10:05:45 PM »

Yes, and if said Democrat were from central Appalachia, I'm sure he'd win it.

This is Obama.  He will not win central Appalachia no matter how much he "should".

there was a candidate named clinton who won central appalachia.  ;ast i checked, he isnt from there.

gore either won it, or came very close to winning it.

hell even dukakis did relatively well there.

and please dont play the race card, which seems to be the default excuse of the obama supporters.

If the shoe fits...

Obama is likely to do worse than the average Democrat in Appalachia, and yes, it is due to race.  Take a look at how well Harold Ford did in eastern Tennessee, for an example.

what democrat does do well in east tennessee?  that goes back to civil war.



Did I say that Democrats do well in eastern Tennessee?  Harold Ford did worse than other recent Democratic candidates for federal office.  He did worse in eastern Tennessee than Clement in 2002 even though Ford came much closer than Clement to actually winning the state.  Why is that?  What was so different about Harold Ford?

ford wasnt the son of a former governor as clement was/is.

ford hadnt spent time in east tennessee or working on issues important to east tennessee as clement had.

now, of course, race is always a factor to some degree.  but as a son of appalachia, i take offense to painting the people there with a broad brush.

im going to go out on a mighty big limb here and say that racism exists in south chicago...and *may be* a factor in the election.
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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 10:06:52 PM »

If Gore won Central it'd be by the BAREST of margins - since he barely won anything in eastern TN.

Kerry obviously got clobbered.
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2008, 10:07:45 PM »


be patient, spade.

we'll see.
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2008, 10:09:01 PM »

If Gore won Central it'd be by the BAREST of margins - since he barely won anything in eastern TN.

Kerry obviously got clobbered.

east tennessee is considered 'south appalachia', at least according to the arc.
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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2008, 10:12:39 PM »

Yes, and if said Democrat were from central Appalachia, I'm sure he'd win it.

This is Obama.  He will not win central Appalachia no matter how much he "should".

there was a candidate named clinton who won central appalachia.  ;ast i checked, he isnt from there.

gore either won it, or came very close to winning it.

hell even dukakis did relatively well there.

and please dont play the race card, which seems to be the default excuse of the obama supporters.

If the shoe fits...

Obama is likely to do worse than the average Democrat in Appalachia, and yes, it is due to race.  Take a look at how well Harold Ford did in eastern Tennessee, for an example.

what democrat does do well in east tennessee?  that goes back to civil war.



Did I say that Democrats do well in eastern Tennessee?  Harold Ford did worse than other recent Democratic candidates for federal office.  He did worse in eastern Tennessee than Clement in 2002 even though Ford came much closer than Clement to actually winning the state.  Why is that?  What was so different about Harold Ford?

ford wasnt the son of a former governor as clement was/is.

And what does this have to do with anything?  Clement being the son of a former governor means he does better than Ford in eastern Tennessee, but not the state overall?  Do you actually believe these things that you type?
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2008, 10:13:56 PM »

OK then

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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2008, 10:14:25 PM »


Clinton-colored.
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