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« Reply #2275 on: July 19, 2010, 12:21:10 AM »

If I can do it without resigning as SoEA, I'd like to volunteer for the role of Delegate Smiley

Indeed you can hold an office and serve as a ConCon delegate.
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« Reply #2276 on: July 19, 2010, 01:03:55 PM »

I'd like to be delegate.
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« Reply #2277 on: July 19, 2010, 01:27:05 PM »


Hash would be an excellent choice.
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« Reply #2278 on: July 19, 2010, 03:27:28 PM »

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« Reply #2279 on: July 19, 2010, 04:38:39 PM »

In accordance with Purple State, I say we keep accepting nominations for another two days before holding a vote on our regional delegate.
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« Reply #2280 on: July 19, 2010, 04:54:13 PM »

In accordance with Purple State, I say we keep accepting nominations for another two days before holding a vote on our regional delegate.
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« Reply #2281 on: July 19, 2010, 04:58:01 PM »

We will now be holding a vote on the following bill unless there are any objections:

Mideast Constitutional Budget Amendment

Article VII-Regional Budget

Section 1: Budgetary Procedure

1.  During each Gubernatorial term a budget shall be passed by the Assembly in regards to Regional spending.
2.  This budget shall include all regional spending which is not specifically addressed and set by previous legislation.
3.  All budgets should also address tax rates in the Mideast region.
4.  No further spending may be addressed by the Assebly until the passing of the regional budget.

Section 2: Budgetary Precedence

1.  Upon passage of the first budget, all previous laws in relation to spending shall be overridden unless specifically mandated by the budget.


No no no!

Make a budget first.
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« Reply #2282 on: July 19, 2010, 05:31:14 PM »

I wish to put myself forward as a ConCon delegate Smiley
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« Reply #2283 on: July 20, 2010, 03:00:16 AM »

I also would like to express interest in being a delegate.
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« Reply #2284 on: July 20, 2010, 12:11:23 PM »

I also would like to express interest in being a delegate.

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« Reply #2285 on: July 20, 2010, 10:57:42 PM »

Should we vote on the delegates?
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« Reply #2286 on: July 21, 2010, 03:03:25 PM »

If I may, here's my short speech on why I should be delegate:

I've been active in this game since 2007. I've served as Attorney General once, SoEA twice (and despite being fired, I think I did a good job) and a Senator for two full terms. I've been an old proponent of game reform before it was even trendy, and I was a delegate at the last ConCon where I was extremely disappointed with the narrow-minded obstructionist mindset of some. I was the one who put forward the motion to close the last ConCon down and end the stupidity and misery going on in there.

I still support game reform, but not for the sake of game reform. I won't close my eyes to the (reasonable and intelligent) arguments of those who may oppose the view of the reformists. I will put forward some of my ideas if I'm a delegate, but I'll work harder to forge compromise on one plan and force people to get things done unlike the last time around. I'm a person of compromise as long as others are as well. And, hell, you all know me.

plus, I don't hold any other office right now, so it's not like I'm busy with other stuff. I sincerely hope you consider voting me in to be delegate. Trugarez.
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« Reply #2287 on: July 21, 2010, 03:35:15 PM »

Ben, Inks, Hash and Afleitch. All great potential choices! Cheesy
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« Reply #2288 on: July 21, 2010, 03:55:52 PM »

We will now be holding a vote on the following bill unless there are any objections:

Mideast Constitutional Budget Amendment

Article VII-Regional Budget

Section 1: Budgetary Procedure

1.  During each Gubernatorial term a budget shall be passed by the Assembly in regards to Regional spending.
2.  This budget shall include all regional spending which is not specifically addressed and set by previous legislation.
3.  All budgets should also address tax rates in the Mideast region.
4.  No further spending may be addressed by the Assebly until the passing of the regional budget.

Section 2: Budgetary Precedence

1.  Upon passage of the first budget, all previous laws in relation to spending shall be overridden unless specifically mandated by the budget.


I apologize for offering my two cents so late in the debate, but....

Are we sure we want to have the restriction in line 4 on debating spending/taxes only in accordance with passing the quarterly (once per governor's term) budget? If I understand that provision correctly, once a budget is passed no further measures relating to spending may be introduced in the Assembly until the next term. While in real life there may be some strong reasons for this (though I imagine real world legislatures make additional appropriation bills outside the budget), I'm not sure we need to so limit free debate and creativity in this body.

Leaving aside the obvious potential need for emergency appropriations in case of disaster, etc, I say if someone wants to present a spending measure modifying the budget already passed that term, then let them. The  rest of the Assembly may very well vote it down on grounds the proposal doesn't warrant reopening the settled budget, or it may decide the proposal is worthwhile and whetever spending changes it calls for in the budget are worth it. The key here is: shouldn't the Assembly have the choice to decide?

Alternatively, maybe that section should at least only limit new spending proposals to those affecting the next term's budget. That way after a budget is passed, if an Assemblyman has a good idea involving spending they could at least propose it to take effect starting in the next term's budget. Otherwise we risk every single spending proposal being made during the budgetary process rather than spread throughout the Assembly term.

P.S. Typo in line 4: "Assebly"
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« Reply #2289 on: July 22, 2010, 05:27:46 PM »

Elect someone to the Convention. Your candidates are benconstine, Hashemite, afleitch and Inks.LWC.
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« Reply #2290 on: July 23, 2010, 06:53:44 PM »

I motion to close nominations.
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« Reply #2291 on: July 23, 2010, 09:21:57 PM »

On the motion to close nominations: AYE
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« Reply #2292 on: July 23, 2010, 10:39:16 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #2293 on: July 24, 2010, 01:34:25 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #2294 on: July 24, 2010, 08:10:41 PM »

aye
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« Reply #2295 on: July 25, 2010, 12:08:26 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #2296 on: July 25, 2010, 01:02:29 AM »

Point of order, the Assembly session ended on Friday at noon.
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« Reply #2297 on: July 25, 2010, 01:04:51 AM »

Point of order, the Assembly session ended on Friday at noon.

I agree with the point. We need to elect a Speaker, and then move back to the ConCon.

I nominate HappyWarrior for Speaker of the Assembly.
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« Reply #2298 on: July 25, 2010, 12:27:44 PM »

Point of order, the Assembly session ended on Friday at noon.

I agree with the point. We need to elect a Speaker, and then move back to the ConCon.

I nominate HappyWarrior for Speaker of the Assembly.

Can we just elect a Speaker then move straight to the vote? We've already got candidates up and running. Those who want it have shown an interest.
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« Reply #2299 on: July 25, 2010, 03:18:13 PM »

I nominate Inks for Speaker
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