Mideast Assembly Thread

[tmthforu94]

Ben, you have been an asset to the Mideast region. I wish you the best of luck in your new role.

[California8429]

Good luck to Ben and his future.

[HappyWarrior]

Without Further ado here is my Budget bill

Mideast Constitutional Budget Amendment

Article VIII-Regional Budget

Section 1: Budgetary Procedure

1.  During each Gubernatorial term a budget shall be passed by the Assembly in regards to Regional spending.
2.  This budget shall include all regional spending which is not specifically addressed and set by previous legislation.
3.  All budgets should also address tax rates in the Mideast region.
4.  Following a gubernatorial veto of any budgetary legislation, the Assembly must establish a 2/3s marjority to override this veto, just as with any legislation.
5.  No further spending may be addressed by the Assebly until the passing of the regional budget.

Section 2: Budgetary Precedence

1.  Upon passage of the first budget, all previous laws in relation to spending shall be overridden unless specifically mandated by the budget.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I feel clause 4 is unnecessary (although if it stays in, let's fix it so majority is spelled correctly ).

[RIP Robert H Bork]

I feel clause 4 is unnecessary (although if it stays in, let's fix it so majority is spelled correctly ).

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[California8429]

I feel clause 4 is unnecessary (although if it stays in, let's fix it so majority is spelled correctly ).

^^^^

and Assembly in clause 5.

So to get this straight, any bill we pass that has to do with spending or taxes will just not take EFFECT until the next budget correct? Otherwise what else will we be doing besides the budget correct?

[Purple State]

Two things: §1.5 can make the process overly cumbersome, though it is potentially useful for making sure it gets done; I would recommend considerable debate on this. Second, I will be watching this process closely as the federal attempts to create a budget commence shortly.

[California8429]

What are your thoughts on Section 2?

I mean that means it's a reboot for the region, do we really want that?

I don't think we've passed too many bills that they shouldn't be included, though with no real budget before, they really were all estimates of what the current tax and spending rates were, etc.

[HappyWarrior]

Anyone who would like to propose an amendment should feel free to do so.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Anyone who would like to propose an amendment should feel free to do so.

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note: the last article in the current constitution is VI, so I changed VIII to VII. I'm iffy on sections 1.5 (1.4 in this version) and 2, but we'll have to debate some more on that first.

[HappyWarrior]

Anyone who would like to propose an amendment should feel free to do so.

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note: the last article in the current constitution is VI, so I changed VIII to VII. I'm iffy on sections 1.5 (1.4 in this version) and 2, but we'll have to debate some more on that first.

If you'd like to I'll accept that as friendly.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

I understand that it's accepted as friendly, then?

The main change was to strike down the 2/3 majority clause, which I don't think is necessary (see previous comments).

[California8429]

I understand that it's accepted as friendly, then?

The main change was to strike down the 2/3 majority clause, which I don't think is necessary (see previous comments).

yes

Now onto Section 2. What are all your thoughts on this? I'm opposed to it (slightly) I don't think we should just start over, you can't do that in RL and we really haven't passed THAT many bills

[HappyWarrior]

I understand that it's accepted as friendly, then?

The main change was to strike down the 2/3 majority clause, which I don't think is necessary (see previous comments).

yes

Now onto Section 2. What are all your thoughts on this? I'm opposed to it (slightly) I don't think we should just start over, you can't do that in RL and we really haven't passed THAT many bills

The bill would only strike down past spending bills, which were after all only guesses anyway and pretty much useless.

[California8429]

I understand that it's accepted as friendly, then?

The main change was to strike down the 2/3 majority clause, which I don't think is necessary (see previous comments).

yes

Now onto Section 2. What are all your thoughts on this? I'm opposed to it (slightly) I don't think we should just start over, you can't do that in RL and we really haven't passed THAT many bills

The bill would only strike down past spending bills, which were after all only guesses anyway and pretty much useless.

true. I guess I'm good with this bill then if we can start voting soon.

[Barnes]

Two reminders:

-Hold a confirmation hearing for afleitch to be Superior Court Judge
-Send a Delegate to the Constitutional Convention.

[tmthforu94]

Both of Barnes points should be done as soon as possible.

As for a Delegate, I'm fine with whoever the Assembly chooses . I trust y'all to pick someone good. I'd encourage anyone who is interested to publicly say that they are so that the Assembly will have something to work with. I think we have at least one person who has expressed interest so far. If anything, poll Mideasterners on who they want.

[California8429]

How would we precede on choosing a delegate?

Hold some hearings?

And are we ready to vote on the budget bill? There seems to be minimal debate

[Purple State]

How would we precede on choosing a delegate?

Hold some hearings?

And are we ready to vote on the budget bill? There seems to be minimal debate

For the delegate, a reasonable way to do that is to have an open nomination period of 48-72 hours and then go from there.

[HappyWarrior]

We will now be holding a vote on the following bill unless there are any objections:

Mideast Constitutional Budget Amendment

Article VII-Regional Budget

Section 1: Budgetary Procedure
1.  During each Gubernatorial term a budget shall be passed by the Assembly in regards to Regional spending.
2.  This budget shall include all regional spending which is not specifically addressed and set by previous legislation.
3.  All budgets should also address tax rates in the Mideast region.
4.  No further spending may be addressed by the Assebly until the passing of the regional budget.

Section 2: Budgetary Precedence

1.  Upon passage of the first budget, all previous laws in relation to spending shall be overridden unless specifically mandated by the budget.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

AYE

[Kaine for Senate '18]

If I can do it without resigning as SoEA, I'd like to volunteer for the role of Delegate

[useful idiot]

Aye

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Aye

[California8429]

AYE