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« on: September 03, 2008, 11:40:59 AM »
« edited: September 12, 2008, 01:02:38 AM by WilliamWallace »

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 11:42:22 AM »

LOL, a real mayor.

LOL, a commander of the Alaskan national guard.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 11:43:57 AM »

Your defenses of your sorceress simply causes me greater concern.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 11:46:35 AM »

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LOL, a community organizer.

LOL, a law review editor.
He was a community and he was a law review editor. Being the mayor of a town of 6,000 and out-sourcing all your responsibilities to crony administrators hardly makes you some great executive leader. And as people have repeatedly pointed out, the Pentagon and General Petraeus command the Alaskan National Guard, not Sarah.
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 11:47:06 AM »

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So says the worshiper of "the one."
So sayeth the one who creates idols in the sorceress' likeness, in his trollings.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 11:51:47 AM »

He probably had more responsibility being a big city community organizer and the president of the most prestigious legal volume in the world.

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Uh, you'd be confusing yourself with me.

Ask for the comfort of Sorceress Juno, perhaps she will take pity on you and shine her countenance and mercy upon you. I am sure she will assure the painlessness of your death.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 11:54:40 AM »

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Do you people really believe that stuff?

Community organizer and law review editor > than Mayor and Governor?Huh

You can't be serious.

2007-onward
Obama:
Senator & Major Presidential Candidate Debating the Issues Every Day & Overseeing Own Campaign

Palin:
Governor of a small state

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U.S. Senator

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Mayor of tiny town of 6,000

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State Senator for District of 653,647 people, dealing with statewide issues in the legislature.

Palin:
Mayor of tiny town of 6,000

I'm not even going to get into previous education because I don't believe it necessarily defines intelligence. But there is NO COMPARISON here, folks. No Comparison.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 11:55:15 AM »

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Do you people really believe that stuff?

Community organizer and law review editor > than Mayor and Governor?Huh

You can't be serious.


Er... no. His experience in state and national politics and his experience in running a national campaign for a year and a half alone are more than what little she did as the mayor of an Alaskan hamlet and governor of the 47th least populated state. The fact that he was a community organizer in the 3rd largest city in the country and editor of an internationally recognized law review doesn't hurt, of course, and compares favorably to getting a degree in journalism from the University of Idaho and then being a sportscaster on the local evening news.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 11:55:56 AM »
« Edited: September 12, 2008, 01:02:04 AM by WilliamWallace »

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(BTW: The Harvard law review is hardly the most prestigious legal volume in the world.) Harvard isn't even the most prestigious legal institution in the world.

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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2008, 11:56:34 AM »

He probably had more responsibility being a big city community organizer and the president of the most prestigious legal volume in the world.

Can someone clearly explain what the heck is a community organizer?  No one on TV has been able to do so yet.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2008, 12:02:15 PM »

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Do you people really believe that stuff?

Community organizer and law review editor > than Mayor and Governor?Huh

You can't be serious.

2007-onward
Obama:
Senator & Major Presidential Candidate Debating the Issues Every Day & Overseeing Own Campaign

Palin:
Governor of a small state

2005-2006
Obama:
U.S. Senator

Palin:
Mayor of tiny town of 6,000

1996-2004
Obama:
State Senator for District of 653,647 people, dealing with statewide issues in the legislature.

Palin:
Mayor of tiny town of 6,000

I'm not even going to get into previous education because I don't believe it necessarily defines intelligence. But there is NO COMPARISON here, folks. No Comparison.

Correct, Beet. It's nothing short of laughable.
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2008, 12:03:00 PM »

He probably had more responsibility being a big city community organizer and the president of the most prestigious legal volume in the world.

Can someone clearly explain what the heck is a community organizer?  No one on TV has been able to do so yet.

It's like running the PTA, but instead of getting parents riled up over drama club cutbacks, you get your neighbors riled up over incinerator permitting.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2008, 12:03:33 PM »

That one made my day!
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2008, 12:03:45 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2008, 12:07:32 PM »


Obama doesn't do any work in the Senate.  His staffers and interns do.
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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2008, 12:08:22 PM »

What was Olberman's response?
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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2008, 12:10:01 PM »


Obama doesn't do any work in the Senate.  His staffers and interns do.
Which is why Ghostmonkey's little quip is ridiculous. No one in an executive position (or even in the role of Senator or something) does everything by themselves. Everyone has handlers, aids, staffers, appointees, etc. to help them out. Even the President. So if you want to downplay Obama's leadership role in running a national campaign nearly 365 days a year for the last 1 and a half years because he had help, then there aren't any politicians with leadership experience.
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2008, 12:11:02 PM »


You mean to suggest that Olbermann's responses to anything are entirely predictable?  Surely you jest.
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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2008, 12:14:48 PM »
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Obama doesn't do any work in the Senate.  His staffers and interns do.
Which is why Ghostmonkey's little quip is ridiculous. No one in an executive position (or even in the role of Senator or something) does everything by themselves. Everyone has handlers, aids, staffers, appointees, etc. to help them out. Even the President. So if you want to downplay Obama's leadership role in running a national campaign nearly 365 days a year for the last 1 and a half years because he had help, then there aren't any politicians with leadership experience.

As ridiculous, of course, as glossing over Palin's time as governor of a state with ridiculous riders like "oh, it's not that big of a state."  The insistence on focusing on the fact that Palin was a "small-town mayor" is almost as ridiculous as writing off Obama as nothing but a community organizer.  Sure, he's done other stuff.  So has Palin.

I am not thrilled with the fact that Palin will have been Governor for only two years come inauguration day.  Still, it is laughable to say that you're unable to vote for McCain's ticket because of an inexperienced Vice President when the experience comparison on the top of the ticket is so incredibly lopsided in McCain's favor, which seems to be all-too-often what is being said by the Obama side.
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2008, 12:18:41 PM »

Seriously, can somebody please answer the question about what a community organizer "does". I've been trying to figure that out for a long time. Considering how much Obama hypes that up, I think it's worthwhile to get a serious, thoughtful answer on this.
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2008, 12:22:20 PM »

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Do you people really believe that stuff?

Community organizer and law review editor > than Mayor and Governor?Huh

You can't be serious.

2007-onward
Obama:
Senator & Major Presidential Candidate Debating the Issues Every Day & Overseeing Own Campaign

Palin:
Governor of a small state

2005-2006
Obama:
U.S. Senator

Palin:
Mayor of tiny town of 6,000

1996-2004
Obama:
State Senator for District of 653,647 people, dealing with statewide issues in the legislature.

Palin:
Mayor of tiny town of 6,000

I'm not even going to get into previous education because I don't believe it necessarily defines intelligence. But there is NO COMPARISON here, folks. No Comparison.

Okay, lets just stop, hold on.  Be fair, you really can't count Obama's "experience" in the US Senate as contributing to his actual governing experience.  All the guy has done is campaign since elected.

Besides, I thought experience didn't matter.
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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2008, 12:24:03 PM »


I'm glad you didn't/wouldn't have supported Jimmy Carter in 1976 or Bill Clinton in 1992.
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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2008, 12:27:26 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2008, 12:29:43 PM by anti_leftist »



Besides, I thought experience didn't matter.



Typical, closed-minded Republican hack. Why can't you understand this? Experience only didn't matter when Democrats were choosing between Hillary and Obama for the nominee or when voters are now choosing between McCain and Obama at the top of the ticket. Change, hope, and being a Washington outsider are far more important in these situations. But experience does matter when choosing between Biden and Palin for VP because qualifications and past accomplishments are what really matter instead of just vague promises and empty rhetoric. It's perfectly logical really. You should learn to be as open-minded and tolerant as Obama supporters are.
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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2008, 12:47:35 PM »

In defense of "our" girl, here is a copy and past for NRO's The Corner. For every offense, there is a defense. Tongue

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All resistance to Palin is futile. Give it up.
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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2008, 12:49:34 PM »

LOL, a real mayor.

LOL, a commander of the Alaskan national guard.

Didn't you say that Republicans want to kill Mexicans and Obama?
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