Revenge of Presidential Survivor : Round nineteen

[True Democrat]

Taylor

[DownWithTheLeft]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

[ChrisFromNJ]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

He's a Top 5 president regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the right wing thinks.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

     As much as I have Northern pride, if Sam helps us take out FDR, I'll gladly help him take out Lincoln once it looks like he has a real shot at succeeding.

[Smid]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

He's a Top 5 president regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the right wing thinks.

Reagan is also a Top 5 president, regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the left wing thinks.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

He's a Top 5 president regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the right wing thinks.

Reagan is also a Top 5 president, regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the left wing thinks.

I'm hardly a member of the lunatic fringe on the left, and I don't even have him in the top 20.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

He's a Top 5 president regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the right wing thinks.

Reagan is also a Top 5 president, regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the left wing thinks.

Reagan is not a Top 5 president.

Reagan can't hold FDR's jock in term of accomplishments.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

He's a Top 5 president regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the right wing thinks.

Reagan is also a Top 5 president, regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the left wing thinks.

Reagan is not a Top 5 president.

Reagan can't hold FDR's jock in term of accomplishments.

Your right this is a great list of achievement:
1.) Create nanny state
2.) Realize it doesn't work, so create war to fix it
3.) Leave America with a war and economic problems

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

He's a Top 5 president regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the right wing thinks.

Reagan is also a Top 5 president, regardless of what the lunatic fringe on the left wing thinks.

Reagan is not a Top 5 president.

Reagan can't hold FDR's jock in term of accomplishments.

Your right this is a great list of achievement:
1.) Create nanny state
2.) Realize it doesn't work, so create war to fix it
3.) Leave America with a war and economic problems

You realize that he didn't create WWII, we were attacked, right?  Or do you think he planned Pearl Harbor?

[DownWithTheLeft]

You realize that he didn't create WWII, we were attacked, right?  Or do you think he planned Pearl Harbor?

1.) I believe he knew about it
2.) He attacked the wrong goddamn country, much worse than Bush going after Iraq AFTER Afghanistan
3.) His aid of the British and taking it up the ass from Churchill is why they were so pissed

[Kaine for Senate '18]

You realize that he didn't create WWII, we were attacked, right?  Or do you think he planned Pearl Harbor?

1.) I believe he knew about it
2.) He attacked the wrong goddamn country, much worse than Bush going after Iraq AFTER Afghanistan
3.) His aid of the British and taking it up the ass from Churchill is why they were so pissed

1)  No US President would intentionally do that.
2)  He did go to war with Japan.
3)  Support any friend.

[DownWithTheLeft]

You realize that he didn't create WWII, we were attacked, right?  Or do you think he planned Pearl Harbor?

1.) I believe he knew about it
2.) He attacked the wrong goddamn country, much worse than Bush going after Iraq AFTER Afghanistan
3.) His aid of the British and taking it up the ass from Churchill is why they were so pissed

1)  No US President would intentionally do that.
2)  He did go to war with Japan.
3)  Support any friend.

1.) Lincoln encouraged war too, this was nothing new
2.) He went to war with Japan after Germany
3.) Sounds like the stupid Israeli policy that is screwing us now

[The Mikado]

You realize that he didn't create WWII, we were attacked, right?  Or do you think he planned Pearl Harbor?

1.) I believe he knew about it
2.) He attacked the wrong goddamn country, much worse than Bush going after Iraq AFTER Afghanistan
3.) His aid of the British and taking it up the ass from Churchill is why they were so pissed

Well...ah, hell, this isn't an argument I want at this time of night.  I'll simply point you to this and ask you how you can justify this "wrong country" line.

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[dead0man]

FDR

[dead0man]

2.) He went to war with Japan after Germany

For the last funking time, GERMANY DECLARED WAR ON US BECAUSE WE DECLARED WAR ON JAPAN because Japan attacked us.  It was only then that we declared war on Germany.
Dec 7th Japan attacks the US
Dec 8th US (along with China) declares war on Japan
Dec 11th Germany and Italy declare war on the US
(later that same day)
US declares war on Germany and Italy

[Smid]

The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour had nothing to do with American support for Britain and everything to do with imperialistic expansionism throughout asia and the pacific.

[Associate Justice PiT]

The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour had nothing to do with American support for Britain and everything to do with imperialistic expansionism throughout asia and the pacific.

     As I recall, wasn't it because we stopped trading with them because of the atrocities they committed against the Chinese?

[Torie]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

     As much as I have Northern pride, if Sam helps us take out FDR, I'll gladly help him take out Lincoln once it looks like he has a real shot at succeeding.

What an execrable log rolling scheme! Oh the horror! It must be defeated! Off damn spot!

[Associate Justice PiT]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

     As much as I have Northern pride, if Sam helps us take out FDR, I'll gladly help him take out Lincoln once it looks like he has a real shot at succeeding.

What an execrable log rolling scheme! Oh the horror! It must be defeated! Off damn spot!

     FDR took out Silent Cal of all people. It's my job to avenge Coolidge now.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Voting is closed. I'll keep the topic open so you guys can keep talking though.

[HappyWarrior]

Dammit, looks like FDR might survive another round.  I wish Sam would have gone for FDR, I'm more than happy to help out with Lincoln after FDR is through.  But seriously he shouldn't have escaped round 1, this is ridiculous

     As much as I have Northern pride, if Sam helps us take out FDR, I'll gladly help him take out Lincoln once it looks like he has a real shot at succeeding.

What an execrable log rolling scheme! Oh the horror! It must be defeated! Off damn spot!

     FDR took out Silent Cal of all people. It's my job to avenge Coolidge now.

Coolidge was the WORST president in US history.  FDR was one of the best, what is wrong with you guys?  Even your hero Ronny Reagan said he admired FDR.

[HardRCafé]

Coolidge was the WORST president in US history.

On what grounds?

[HappyWarrior]

Coolidge was the WORST president in US history.

On what grounds?

He and Warren G. Harding created the completely hands off econmic approach which lead to the great depression.

[NDN]

Even your hero Ronny Reagan said he admired FDR.

I don't like either.

[NDN]

He and Warren G. Harding created the completely hands off econmic approach which lead to the great depression.

They didn't 'create' anything, they just maintained the status quo. Although in Harding's defense, he actually helped end the post-WWI depression. Hoover by contrast exacerbated his through high tariffs, tax increases, etc... Policies FDR attacked while on the campaign trail as socialist, incidentally. Of course he went on to continue those policies mostly and added newer idiotic ones too.