Department of Forum Affairs

[Devilman88]

I'll have this debate for as long as it takes, through lawsuits and dialogue. I support both of your candidacies and greatly appreciate your views on GM reform. I am looking forward to passing legislation in the next Senate to fully form and establish the position.

So do we!

[Hatman 🍁]

re-certification of results

First Round
MAROKAI BLUE   30
AHDUKE      17
GUSTAF      10
KEYSTONE PHIL   6
GPORTER      1

Second round
MAROKAI BLUE   30
AHDUKE      17
GUSTAF      10
KEYSTONE PHIL   6
Exhausted   1

Third round
MAROKAI BLUE   33 --> ELECTED
AHDUKE      17
GUSTAF      12
Exhausted   2

DISCARDED BALLOTS
hcallega (new)
catmusic (new)
badger (new)
mrk (new)
KyleGordon2016 (new)
intermoderate (new)
Flyers2004 (new)

[Hatman 🍁]

CERTIFICATION OF ELECTION RESULTS

RACE FOR PRESIDENT

FIRST ROUND

LIEF / BACON KING: 41 votes
PIT / HAPPYWARRIOR: 40 votes
GPORTER / DC_CUTIE: 1 vote [eliminated]

SECOND ROUND
LIEF / BACON KING: 41 votes
PIT / HAPPYWARRIOR: 41 votes

On account of having more first preferences, I declare the ticket of LIEF / BACON KING to be elected.

RACE FOR SENATE

MIDEAST

DAN: 10 votes
OPEBO (WRITE IN): 3 votes
KYLE GORDON: 2 votes
PERSEPOLIS: 1 vote
I declare Dan to be elected

MIDWEST

First round
MASTERJEDI: 6 votes
FRITZ: 4 votes
JAS (WRITE IN): 2 votes [eliminated]
WINSTON DISRAELI: 0 votes

Second round
MASTERJEDI: 6 votes
FRITZ: 6 votes

I declare the election to be a tie with a run-off to be held next weekend


NORTHEAST

HASHEMITE: 13 votes
ROWANBRANDON: 3 votes
KEYSTONE PHIL: 1 vote
FLYERS2004 (WRITE IN): 1 vote
ERASERHEAD (WRITE IN): 1 vote

I declare Hashemite to be elected


PACIFIC

MAXQUE: 13 votes
SEWER SOCIALIST (WRITE IN): 1 vote

I declare MaxQue to be elected


SOUTHEAST

NORTH CAROLINA YANKEE: 7 votes
AHDUKE (WRITE IN): 2 votes
DEMOCRATIC HAWK (WRITE IN): 1 vote
GPORTER: 0 votes

I declare North Carolina Yankee to be elected


INVALIDATED VOTES
*Gustaf (voting twice, deletion of second ballot)
*Barnes (registered after the deadline)
*GPorter (editing ballot after 20 minutes)
*KyleGordon (voting twice)
*JewishConservative (registered after the deadline)
*realisticidealist (editing ballot after 20 minutes)
*Rocky (activity requirements)

(JUST FOR SENATE)
*Dc_united (voted for wrong race)
*Tender Branson (voted for wrong race)
*hcallega (voted for wrong race)
*Einzige (voted for wrong race)
*electoraljew2 (voted for wrong race) 

QUESTIONABLE BALLOTS
*Iosif: Did not vote for VP, but intent was clear
*Bacon King: Given permission to vote twice due to glitch
*Sesnsei: Did not vote for VP, but intent was clear
*Andy Jackson: Did not vote for VP, but intent was clear; also Given permission to vote twice due to glitch
*Cindywho2212: Did not vote for VP
*RowanBrandon: Did not vote for VP

Let the court challenges begin!

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

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Mr Secretary, I know there is a dispute over which votes are valid and which ones are not, and I respect your decision of not counting Barnes and electoraljew2, even though I do not agree with it (we will see what the court say in the matter) but you seem to have made a mistake with Jewishconservatives vote. He registered on June the 6th, however relocated to Midwest after the deadline.

JewishConservative
Regional Protection Party
Indiana

Was recruited by : Tmthforu94

Jewish Conservative
RPP
Montana

Therefor his vote should only be invalid in the senatorial race. Looking at the numbers, I think you did count his vote, and just placed him in the wrong collum. But I just wanted to make sure so that it's all in order.   

[Hatman 🍁]

No, I didn't count his vote. It was a mistake. Maybe I counted the ballots wrong.

[Hatman 🍁]

ok, I see what I did wrong. I counted MaxQue's vote as both for Lief and Pit by accident.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

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I feel for you. I think you might need a vaccation after this whole phars is over. This election must be quite tiresom.

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Then it won't effect the final results. All good then.

[HappyWarrior]

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

[MasterJedi]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

[Purple State]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

[bgwah]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

[cinyc]

Are we going to go back to prior years to see who else's vote is supposedly ineligible because they registered before attaining 25 posts?

[tmthforu94]

Are we going to go back to prior years to see who else's vote is supposedly ineligible because they registered before attaining 25 posts?

You make a good point. There could have been several voters who registered before 25 posts, enough to sway the election. An investigation should be conducted on it.

[Vepres]

Are we going to go back to prior years to see who else's vote is supposedly ineligible because they registered before attaining 25 posts?

You make a good point. There could have been several voters who registered before 25 posts, enough to sway the election. An investigation should be conducted on it.

Unless somebody challenges the results in court, which is looking less likely, then Lief has won.

[SPC]

How is it a run-off when Masterjedi is tied even though he got more first-preferences but an outright Lief victory when he is tied and got more first-preferences? These results are fixed.

[HappyWarrior]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

[HappyWarrior]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

Not to my satisfaction.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

Not to my satisfaction.

Here's the simplified version

Our votes had eye-witness accounts and mine and BK's in particular had documented evidence of technical failure.

Gustaf only had his word.

[HappyWarrior]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

Not to my satisfaction.

Here's the simplified version

Our votes had eye-witness accounts and mine and BK's in particular had documented evidence of technical failure.

Gustaf only had his word.

Gustaf however is well known and honest, not to mention the fact that he is a mod.  I don't see why he would lie about that.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

Not to my satisfaction.

Here's the simplified version

Our votes had eye-witness accounts and mine and BK's in particular had documented evidence of technical failure.

Gustaf only had his word.

Gustaf however is well known and honest, not to mention the fact that he is a mod.  I don't see why he would lie about that.

That's not really a defense, though, he still broke the rules by doing that. Same thing with Ben when I prosecuted him as AG.

[HappyWarrior]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

Not to my satisfaction.

Here's the simplified version

Our votes had eye-witness accounts and mine and BK's in particular had documented evidence of technical failure.

Gustaf only had his word.

Gustaf however is well known and honest, not to mention the fact that he is a mod.  I don't see why he would lie about that.

That's not really a defense, though, he still broke the rules by doing that. Same thing with Ben when I prosecuted him as AG.

But on that basis there should be NO EXCEPTIONS at all.  That includes you, Gustaf, Andy, and Bacon King.

[MaxQue]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

Not to my satisfaction.

Here's the simplified version

Our votes had eye-witness accounts and mine and BK's in particular had documented evidence of technical failure.

Gustaf only had his word.

Gustaf however is well known and honest, not to mention the fact that he is a mod.  I don't see why he would lie about that.

That's not really a defense, though, he still broke the rules by doing that. Same thing with Ben when I prosecuted him as AG.

But on that basis there should be NO EXCEPTIONS at all.  That includes you, Gustaf, Andy, and Bacon King.

So their vote should be invalidated because they were unlucky than the Voting Booth deleted their vote?

[tmthforu94]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

Not to my satisfaction.

Here's the simplified version

Our votes had eye-witness accounts and mine and BK's in particular had documented evidence of technical failure.

Gustaf only had his word.

Gustaf however is well known and honest, not to mention the fact that he is a mod.  I don't see why he would lie about that.

That's not really a defense, though, he still broke the rules by doing that. Same thing with Ben when I prosecuted him as AG.

But on that basis there should be NO EXCEPTIONS at all.  That includes you, Gustaf, Andy, and Bacon King.

So their vote should be invalidated because they were unlucky than the Voting Booth deleted their vote?

Gustaf was unlucky too though, that his computer messed up.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Shouldn't I win then too because I had more first prefs that Fritz?

That's what I thought as well.

The only ballot I'm still upset about is Gustaf. 

I agree. If BK's vote counts...

But if you got rid of BK's vote, wouldn't you have to also get rid of Andy Jackson's vote, keeping the winner the same?

Marokai was also allowed to vote a second time by the SOFA.  That is three allowed votes, one disallowed, all with the same reasoning for a second vote.

There's a big difference, everyone's explained why.

Not to my satisfaction.

Here's the simplified version

Our votes had eye-witness accounts and mine and BK's in particular had documented evidence of technical failure.

Gustaf only had his word.

Gustaf however is well known and honest, not to mention the fact that he is a mod.  I don't see why he would lie about that.

That's not really a defense, though, he still broke the rules by doing that. Same thing with Ben when I prosecuted him as AG.

But on that basis there should be NO EXCEPTIONS at all.  That includes you, Gustaf, Andy, and Bacon King.

So their vote should be invalidated because they were unlucky than the Voting Booth deleted their vote?

Gustaf was unlucky too though, that his computer messed up.

Again, I highlight the obvious difference. We have proof for everyone else, we only have Gustaf's word. (Also, his votes were right after one another which should've been easy to figure out, and if I recall, different in terms of preferences.)