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« on: September 02, 2004, 11:46:34 PM »

FWIW, on CNN tonight after the Bush speech, a Wall Street Journal reporter stated that the Republicans' internal polling this week has shown a Bush surge in the south, but no real gains in the midwest battlegrounds.  
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2004, 11:47:26 PM »

Don't buy it. Candidates move nationally, just like stocks move with the market. Slight variations, but nothing major.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2004, 11:52:11 PM »
« Edited: September 02, 2004, 11:53:32 PM by The Vorlon »

FWIW, on CNN tonight after the Bush speech, a Wall Street Journal reporter stated that the Republicans' internal polling this week has shown a Bush surge in the south, but no real gains in the midwest battlegrounds.  

No reporter would ever get within 200 miles of the internal polls.

Also, the GOP is not polling "the south" they are running tracking polls in 18 states and Texas and Oklahoma are not on the list.

The last 3 polls (PEW, Gallup & Strategic Vision) all had Bush +1 in Pennsylvania.

Media spin.

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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2004, 12:02:39 AM »

FWIW, on CNN tonight after the Bush speech, a Wall Street Journal reporter stated that the Republicans' internal polling this week has shown a Bush surge in the south, but no real gains in the midwest battlegrounds.  

No reporter would ever get within 200 miles of the internal polls.



Really?  Not even guys like David Broder, Charlie Cook or Ron Faucheux?
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2004, 12:10:13 AM »

FWIW, on CNN tonight after the Bush speech, a Wall Street Journal reporter stated that the Republicans' internal polling this week has shown a Bush surge in the south, but no real gains in the midwest battlegrounds.  

No reporter would ever get within 200 miles of the internal polls.



Really?  Not even guys like David Broder, Charlie Cook or Ron Faucheux?

There are maybe 10 people in the entire campaign who would see the internal polling.

The basic premise of the story is wrong.

They are NOT polling Alabama - why bother?

The Bush campaign has not done a National poll in 3 years.

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2004, 12:41:53 AM »

Early today, CNN also said that internal polling from both sides showed that Zell Miller's speech had brought down Kerry's ratings across several issues.  Now, if true I MIGHT could see Republicans letting this news out, but I think it would be almost impossible for the Democrat's to tell CNN that their internals had taken a hit.  Especially when DNC chairman Terry Mc(sp?) was saying how great the speech was for KERRY.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2004, 08:58:59 AM »

OK, the transcript of the show is up on CNN.com now.  Here is what the WSJ guy (national political editor), said:

JOHN HARWOOD, "WALL STREET JOURNAL": I don't think it did Aaron. In fact I don't think the race is fundamentally changed since before the Democratic convention. Republican polls over the first three nights of the convention that I was told of this afternoon showed movement for President Bush in southern states but not movement in some of the Midwest states. That suggests that maybe some of his base, particularly white men, is coming back to him, but it may not be working in the battleground states and one thing we have to keep in mind, all of these polls may be more difficult to interpret this year because both parties are doing so much to change the composition of the electorate, we don't know who's going to turn out.


So he's not talking about a national tracking poll, but individual state polls.  The Republicans might not be doing polls of Alabama, but aren't they polling Arkansas, and perhaps Virigina and North Carolina? And of course the Florida panhandle is fundamentally southern, unlike the the rest of the state, and they're certainly getting polilng data from there.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2004, 09:10:09 AM »


It also sounds like he's making up information.  Gotta love the old "my source says" routine.  Must be his magic 8-ball giving him advice.  hahaha
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