Will US Catholics be almost exclusively Hispanic in 30 years?
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« on: July 12, 2008, 12:01:07 AM »

Yes, due to the rate of whites rejecting the church most likely. Hispanic immigration is the only reason the Catholic percentage in the US is stable.
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2008, 12:25:16 AM »

if it's comforting to you, BRTD, I and many of my close friends are Hispanics who have rejected Catholicism.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2008, 12:31:03 AM »

if it's comforting to you, BRTD, I and many of my close friends are Hispanics who have rejected Catholicism.

Also nice. Anyone who has rejected Catholicism is a good thing to me (unless it was for something much worse.)
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2008, 12:37:51 AM »

You're a tough nut, BRTD.  My parents rejected Southern Baptism to become Catholic.  Are they FF's or HP's in your book?
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2008, 12:41:19 AM »

You're a tough nut, BRTD.  My parents rejected Southern Baptism to become Catholic.  Are they FF's or HP's in your book?

Why that and not a liberal Protestant denom?
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2008, 03:35:02 AM »

Define "almost exclusively"
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2008, 04:25:05 PM »

Sorry to burst your bubble, but world wide, not just in the US, Mainline Protestant Churches are declining at a much faster rate.  In England, right now, there are more Catholics than people who claim allegiance to the Church of England.  All over the United States, Mainline Churches are shutting down, many without even enough people left to effect a merger of parishes.

It's sad to think that almost half the Catholic churches in the Pittsburgh diocese had to shut down, until one realizes that close to 75% of all mainline Protestant congregations have shut their doors, and several dozen historic Protestant churches have been torn down in the last decade.  And Pittsburgh is almost devoid of Hispanics.  It's still sad, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise, but we aren't as hard up, at least.
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2008, 05:41:37 PM »
« Edited: July 12, 2008, 06:24:12 PM by Torie »

Sorry to burst your bubble, but world wide, not just in the US, Mainline Protestant Churches are declining at a much faster rate.  In England, right now, there are more Catholics than people who claim allegiance to the Church of England.  All over the United States, Mainline Churches are shutting down, many without even enough people left to effect a merger of parishes.

It's sad to think that almost half the Catholic churches in the Pittsburgh diocese had to shut down, until one realizes that close to 75% of all mainline Protestant congregations have shut their doors, and several dozen historic Protestant churches have been torn down in the last decade.  And Pittsburgh is almost devoid of Hispanics.  It's still sad, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise, but we aren't as hard up, at least.

Most Protestants in the US are not "Mainline" these days. But there are a lot of secular Protestants out there, or some with vague cultural affinities, who never go to church, and many who reject the divinity of Christ, but if forced, would say that they are WASP. Mainline is a way station to "Torieville" in many cases, I suspect. Mainline is just too cerebral, and well, fails to put on good entertainment all too often (although the Methodists tend to have excellent hymns and good choirs; Episcopal hymns tend to be basically un-singable for the average Joe without much musical talent or voice, and that includes moi).  The Catholic Church has many of the same issues, including lousy music.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2008, 05:53:09 PM »

No.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2008, 07:03:05 PM »

In England, right now, there are more Catholics than people who claim allegiance to the Church of England.

False. But more people go to regular services in RC churches than CofE ones (but that's been true for at least a decade now. More people go regular services in non-Anglican Protestant churches than CofE churches also). But that's probably what you were thinking of anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2008, 08:40:15 AM »

This thread sucks and no.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2008, 08:44:26 AM »

Let's bring some logic into this as opposed to BRTD's delusional anti-catholic bigotry.

1 The current wave of fundamentalism/devout protestantism is petering out and with the aging of the baby boomers the group keeping the number of protestants as a percentage of the population so high is going to be gone.
2 What does this mean? It's simple. The same thing will happen here as is in the UK. Protestantism will hollow out leading to an increasingly catholic US by virtue of demographic replacement/converts. Give it 30-50 years and protestants will be a minority of 15-25% concentrated in the south.
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2008, 12:11:19 PM »

Let's bring some logic into this as opposed to BRTD's delusional anti-catholic bigotry.

1 The current wave of fundamentalism/devout protestantism is petering out and with the aging of the baby boomers the group keeping the number of protestants as a percentage of the population so high is going to be gone.
2 What does this mean? It's simple. The same thing will happen here as is in the UK. Protestantism will hollow out leading to an increasingly catholic US by virtue of demographic replacement/converts. Give it 30-50 years and protestants will be a minority of 15-25% concentrated in the south.

Uh, Minnesota or the rest of the Midwest certainly isn't turning away from Protestantism anytime soon.
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2008, 12:12:34 PM »

That part of the country is aging rapidly AND it's getting more and latin immigration along with the sorry state of many protestant churche. I wouldn't count on that if I were you.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2008, 12:20:01 PM »

That part of the country is aging rapidly AND it's getting more and latin immigration along with the sorry state of many protestant churche. I wouldn't count on that if I were you.

Hispanics are going to take over here? Ha.
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2008, 12:24:27 PM »

US is over 15% latin counting only citizens and immigrants both legal/illegal it's more like 25-30%. The US is well on the road to being a mostly catholic anglo-latin fusion country and parts of the country are already there.
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2008, 12:32:38 PM »

US is over 15% latin counting only citizens and immigrants both legal/illegal it's more like 25-30%. The US is well on the road to being a mostly catholic anglo-latin fusion country and parts of the country are already there.

Yes, and Minnesota is not one of those parts. Nor is it exactly booming with Hispanics now (or any non-whites.)
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2008, 01:01:52 PM »

Minnesota will age into oblivion and become a ghost state more or less then. The future is in the coasts/the sunbelt.
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2008, 03:44:05 PM »

Assuming current trends will continue indefinitely is pretty arrogant.  History has plenty of tricks up her skirts for us.
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2008, 04:01:49 PM »

Assuming current trends will continue indefinitely is pretty arrogant.  History has plenty of tricks up her skirts for us.
Stop bringing logic into a BRTD thread.
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2008, 04:36:40 PM »

Assuming current trends will continue indefinitely is pretty arrogant.  History has plenty of tricks up her skirts for us.
Stop bringing logic into a BRTD thread.


Oops, you're right, forgot where we were.
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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2008, 04:49:34 PM »

We are in some kind of twilight zone.
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2008, 05:32:41 PM »

US is over 15% latin counting only citizens and immigrants both legal/illegal it's more like 25-30%. The US is well on the road to being a mostly catholic anglo-latin fusion country and parts of the country are already there.

US is 15% Hispanic.
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/011910.html
Census people don't care if you are legal or not.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2008, 05:42:15 PM »

US is over 15% latin counting only citizens and immigrants both legal/illegal it's more like 25-30%. The US is well on the road to being a mostly catholic anglo-latin fusion country and parts of the country are already there.

US is 15% Hispanic.
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/011910.html
Census people don't care if you are legal or not.

Although illegals may think the Census does...but, yeah, 25-30 percent is probably a gross overestimation.
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2008, 07:16:55 PM »

We are in some kind of twilight zone.

Do you think America could have more in common with Mexico than Canada by 2050- That is a great question.
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