What caused Hitler's rise to power?

[Хahar 🤔]

Let hilarity ensue.

[YRABNNRM]

States Rights.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Slavery.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Jewish Conspiracy

[War on Want]

Tariffs

[Aizen]

Lederhosen and accordions

[DownWithTheLeft]

BTW, if anyone actually wants to debate I vote everyone that signed the Treaty of Versailles

[War on Want]

I vote a mixture of incompetance by Weimar Germany/Bruning, the Great Depression, divide of democratic parties in Germany, and also the failure of a united Left.

[Хahar 🤔]

Jewish Conspiracy

Correct. This thread is now over.

[John Dibble]

Psychiatrists, of course.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Jewish Conspiracy

Correct. This thread is now over.

That's not actually very funny. In fact, it's probably one of the least funny things ever posted here.

Because genocide is oh so very funny when it happens to people you don't like. Har. Har. Har.

[Flying Dog]

Those damn bleedin' heart liberals.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Jewish Conspiracy

Correct. This thread is now over.

That's not actually very funny. In fact, it's probably one of the least funny things ever posted here.

Because genocide is oh so very funny when it happens to people you don't like. Har. Har. Har.

You are the last person who should be judging humor.

[SPC]

Jewish Conspiracy

Correct. This thread is now over.

That's not actually very funny. In fact, it's probably one of the least funny things ever posted here.

Because genocide is oh so very funny when it happens to people you don't like. Har. Har. Har.

Lighten up a little. I thought it was funny even though I am Jewish.

[Flying Dog]

It must be Obama because they're just so damn comparable now.

[??????????]

Treaty of Versailles + French abuses of Germans in the occupied Rhineland.

[opebo]

The owners chose him to protect them against the socialists.  A better question than the inevitable right-wing dictator which is always the last resort of the controlling class might be - what allowed the Left to rise enough to make this class feel threatened?  Of course it was the defeat/Versailles/Weimar inflation, etc.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Let's see how FUNNY you all find this:















Yeah, all of that probably breaches the ToS somehow. And it was upsetting to post and will certainly be upsetting to look at. But I think their use is justified in this case. I don't think that statistics or words can get through to people here sometimes.

There must be something seriously wrong with Western society if genocide can be reduced to (deeply unfunny and utterly shallow) "jokes" of the kind seen in this thread. It isn't really humour and it certainly isn't a way of coping with the horror of what happend. How cruel, how uncaring, how sheltered the Children of the Internets are.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Primary reason: The Great Depression combined with the fact that Germans had about as high a opinion of democracy as the current population of Russia.

Secondary reason: Hindenburg and a lot of people around him were a) idiots and b) seriously underestimating Hitler.


While you could name the Treaty of Versailles as another reason (and it certainly played some role), I also happen to think that it is a bit overrated. You have to keep in mind that the Nazi party actually had been in decline in the mid/late-20ies... until it was "saved" by the Great Depression.

1924 (I): 6.6%
1924 (II): 3.0%
1928: 2.6%

1930: 18.3%
1932 (I): 37.4%
1932 (II): 33.1%

The Nazis did not become a viable political force until 1929/30.

[Bono]

So, Al, what do you think of the South African death camps the British sent Boer women and children to during the Boer Wars?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So, Al, what do you think of the South African death camps the British sent Boer women and children to during the Boer Wars?

There were no death camps (ie; like Auschwitz II, Treblinka, Chełmno...) in South Africa during the Boer Wars. There were "only" concentration camps; obviously what happend there doesn't even begin to compare to the Holocaust, but a war crime is a war crime and establishment (and so on) of those concentration camps was certainly a war crime. As far as I'm concerned, Kitchener deserved his ultimate fate.

That do?

[minionofmidas]

Primary reason: The Great Depression combined with the fact that Germans had about as high a opinion of democracy as the current population of Russia.

Secondary reason: Hindenburg and a lot of people around him were a) idiots and b) seriously underestimating Hitler.


While you could name the Treaty of Versailles as another reason (and it certainly played some role), I also happen to think that it is a bit overrated. You have to keep in mind that the Nazi party actually had been in decline in the mid/late-20ies... until it was "saved" by the Great Depression.

1924 (I): 6.6%
1924 (II): 3.0%
1928: 2.6%

1930: 18.3%
1932 (I): 37.4%
1932 (II): 33.1%

The Nazis did not become a viable political force until 1929/30.

...and then there is the slight matter that virtually noone in Germany - in rhetoric, at least - accepted the Versailles Treaty as the last word. (Ridiculous and worrisome as that is.) In other words: You can blame it for WWII, but you cannot blame it for the NSDAP.

[J. J.]

I would say a number of factors, including the intransigence of SDP, Hindenburg, the smaller right wing parties.  In 1932, a center-right coalition could have been formed with the SDP support, had they been willing to give up some interests.  So could Hindenburg.  Neither did.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Blaming the SPD for that is absurd. The SPD had (in practice at least) much less of a problem working with the bourgeois parties than (some of) the bourgeois parties (the DVP (total puppets of the industrialists) especially).

[SPC]

I don't think the Holocaust is funny, and you've obviously never seen The Producers.