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« on: July 06, 2008, 01:51:17 PM »

From 2000...

http://www.census.gov/population/www/cen2000/phc-t38.html

Good site. I made a map of percent born in state compared with the national average.

Blue = above average
Red = below average

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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 01:53:50 PM »

That map is so unsurprising it surprised me.

Red=old people/mountains
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 02:58:54 PM »

That map is so unsurprising it surprised me.

Red=old people/mountains

That paradigm misses NJ, CT and MD, although the reason they're on there should be painfully obvious. (Virginia, too, come to think of it.)
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2008, 02:59:56 PM »

That map is so unsurprising it surprised me.

Red=old people/mountains

That paradigm misses NJ, CT and MD, although the reason they're on there should be painfully obvious. (Virginia, too, come to think of it.)

With a few exceptions, of course.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2008, 05:55:35 PM »

Most states were predictable. A few suprises: Kansas, Texas, North Carolina
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2008, 07:50:17 PM »

The number of former North Dakotans living in Minnesota is over 20% of North Dakota's current population.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2008, 08:00:30 PM »

From 2000...

http://www.census.gov/population/www/cen2000/phc-t38.html

Good site. I made a map of percent born in state compared with the national average.

Blue = above average
Red = below average



NC is now Red.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2008, 08:12:22 PM »


In 2008? Where are you getting that data from?
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2008, 09:16:45 PM »

What about foreign born pop.?
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2008, 09:24:18 PM »

I would have expected both Carolinas, Arkansas, and Texas to be red.  Pre-Katrina, the same with Louisiana.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2008, 09:28:37 PM »

Kansas is really surprising. All of that is KC overspill? Kansas more than Texas, really?
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2008, 10:09:39 PM »

Kansas is really surprising. All of that is KC overspill?

Kansas was very close (0.5%) from the national average.


More? Red indicates a low percentage of residents who were born in-state.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2008, 10:19:43 PM »

I would have expected both Carolinas, Arkansas, and Texas to be red.  Pre-Katrina, the same with Louisiana.

Perhaps NC and TX, but LA in fact was the top state in residents born in-state.


That is lumped with those born out-of-state.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2008, 10:21:23 PM »

Most states were predictable. A few suprises: Kansas, Texas, North Carolina

I agree that Texas and Kansas are the most surprising. Texas to the point at which I might suggest there was some error in the data, although maybe I am simply underestimating the stagnancy of many rural Texas communities, which must comprise a substantial percentage of the state's population.

North Carolina is mildly surprising, but not nearly so much. People overestimate the degree to which long-distance internal migration affects these sorts of things. The East is far too densely settled for anything but short-distance internal migration to make much difference.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2008, 10:25:25 PM »

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Most states were predictable. A few suprises: Kansas, Texas, North Carolina

I agree that Texas and Kansas are the most surprising. Texas to the point at which I might suggest there was some error in the data, although maybe I am simply underestimating the stagnancy of many rural Texas communities, which must comprise a substantial percentage of the state's population.

North Carolina is mildly surprising, but not nearly so much. People overestimate the degree to which long-distance internal migration affects these sorts of things. The East is far too densely settled for anything but short-distance internal migration to make much difference.

Note, this is based on the 2000 census. Alot of the migration started after that time...
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2008, 11:27:26 PM »

I would have expected both Carolinas, Arkansas, and Texas to be red.  Pre-Katrina, the same with Louisiana.

LOL. Louisiana is actually the state with the highest percentage being born in-state (almost 80%).
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2008, 08:25:23 AM »

The best explanation I have for Texas and North Carolina is that they attract a lot of people looking to start families in places with inexpensive housing, so their children drive up the in-state numbers. Georgia may have more young professionals who don't stay in Atlanta long term, plus somewhat more immigrants than N.C., although it also has plenty of young families.

Texas has a high birthrate in general, too, and since it's been an immigrant destination for a lot longer than most other states, there are a lot native-born children from that population.
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2008, 08:54:45 AM »

I would have expected both Carolinas, Arkansas, and Texas to be red.  Pre-Katrina, the same with Louisiana.

Perhaps NC and TX, but LA in fact was the top state in residents born in-state.


That is lumped with those born out-of-state.
Indeed, the foreign born were born out of state.

What's even more interesting is following who went where.
Pretty vast numbers of southern-born people in the North still... especially Carolinians in New York and most of all Mississippians in Illinois. These of course are the Black elderly. Lots of Appalachian immigration to Florida alongside the better known Northeastern immigration. Minneapolis' role as the receptacle of the Dakotas' (and even Montana's) young liberals. Etc.
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2008, 03:37:24 PM »

I would have expected both Carolinas, Arkansas, and Texas to be red.  Pre-Katrina, the same with Louisiana.

LOL. Louisiana is actually the state with the highest percentage being born in-state (almost 80%).

Cajun country is the highest of that - as memory serves me, some of those counties have up to 95% locally-born rates.
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2008, 03:48:13 PM »

The best explanation I have for Texas and North Carolina is that they attract a lot of people looking to start families in places with inexpensive housing, so their children drive up the in-state numbers. Georgia may have more young professionals who don't stay in Atlanta long term, plus somewhat more immigrants than N.C., although it also has plenty of young families.

Texas has a high birthrate in general, too, and since it's been an immigrant destination for a lot longer than most other states, there are a lot native-born children from that population.

Little bit of anecdotal evidence...

I can't tell you how many large German families in central Texas (Catholics of course) have multiple kids who go to Texas/Texas A&M, etc., get their degrees and settle in the DFW/Houston/Austin suburbs.  It's a right of passage.

Additionally, there have always been a lot of Hispanics in Texas, even dating back to the revolution days, immigration is not everything and has never been everything.  Most people here, for example, would be quite surprised to know that inner city Houston and San Antonio barrios have quite a lot of second and third generation Hispanic kids (the young ones or not so young ones), whose parents or grandparents emigrated.

Third, east Texas acts quite similarly to northern and western Louisiana, and we know what kind of movement has been there.
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2008, 04:42:33 PM »

I thought German Texans were almost all Protestant, but apparently it was a rather mixed bag.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2008, 04:48:35 PM »

I thought German Texans were almost all Protestant, but apparently it was a rather mixed bag.

These were the ones I was around the most:

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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2008, 07:08:21 PM »

I would have expected both Carolinas, Arkansas, and Texas to be red.  Pre-Katrina, the same with Louisiana.
Louisiana has (had) the highest percentage at 79.4%, followed by Pennsylvana with 77.7%.

I suspect that there is a significant effect of the size of the State and its major population centers, as well as the number of children.

People can move between Houston and Dallas and San Antonio and not leave Texas.  If you are in Maryland you can move 20 miles and be in another State.  Children are more likely to live in their State of birth than adults.  People in their 20s and 30s are those who move around.  But they are going to move to larger cities where there are jobs.  They are more likely to have children after settling down.  Exceptions might be in cases like New Hampshire, where people may have had children then bought a house across the line, but hadn't really left the Boston area.
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2008, 07:13:24 PM »

A lot of people have said they want to leave Wisconsin when they are kids, it never happens and almost all of them stay.
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2008, 04:52:36 PM »

This is a different way to look at the data,  The first column is the percentage of persons born in the State who resided in the State in 2000 (excluding persons no longer living in the 50 States and DC).  The second column is that shown in the map, which is the percentage of persons resident in the State in 2000, who were born in the State.

Texas                 79.8% 62.2%
California            76.9  50.2
North Carolina        74.8  63.0
Michigan              73.7  75.4
Florida               73.6  32.7
Georgia               73.4  57.8
Wisconsin             73.3  73.4
Louisiana             71.6  79.4
Minnesota             71.1  70.2
Ohio                  70.9  74.7
Utah                  70.7  62.9
Washington            70.4  47.2
Tennessee             70.2  64.7
Arizona               69.9  34.7
South Carolina        69.8  64.0
Indiana               69.1  69.3
Pennsylvania          69.1  77.7
Maryland              68.5  49.3
Alabama               68.2  73.4
Virginia              67.3  51.9
Maine                 66.3  67.3
Massachusetts         66.2  66.1
Missouri              66.0  67.8
Oregon                66.0  45.3
Kentucky              65.8  73.7
Illinois              65.7  67.1
Connecticut           65.0  57.0
New Jersey            64.5  53.4
New York              63.2  65.3
Hawaii                63.0  56.9
Nevada                62.9  21.3
Delaware              62.3  48.3
Colorado              62.0  41.1
New Hampshire         61.1  43.3
Rhode Island          60.4  61.4
Mississippi           60.3  74.3
Oklahoma              60.3  62.6
New Mexico            59.9  51.5
Vermont               59.1  54.3
Iowa                  59.0  74.8
Arkansas              58.8  63.9
Nebraska              56.0  67.1
Kansas                55.9  59.5
Idaho                 55.4  47.2
Alaska                53.5  38.1
Montana               53.3  56.1
West Virginia         52.2  74.2
South Dakota          49.6  68.1
North Dakota          44.8  72.5
Wyoming               42.8  42.5
District of Columbia  16.8  39.2
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