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Question: Should homeschooling be banned?
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Yes if the parent is not a certified teacher
 
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« on: July 05, 2008, 08:47:01 PM »

I got into a discussion with a friend about this the other day.
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 08:52:23 PM »

Option 2(normal)
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 09:03:01 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 09:26:41 PM »

A more offensive measure would be difficult to imagine.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 09:39:36 PM »

Please state a cogent argument for infringing on personal freedoms. If that is not possible, please delete this asinine question.

My view: While I do think that some religious homeschoolers shelter their children and sometimes resort to indoctrination, many homeschoolers actually skip high school and take classes at community college and local four-year schools.  In fact, many of them go to elite universities. One women complained to the NY Post that the Ivy League is now replete with this social vermin. Oh, the humanity! First they win our spelling and geography competitions and now they're graduating valedictorian from Princeton!  From Stanford to Rice to Yale, homeschoolers are gaining in number and are outperforming their non-homeschooled peers.  Some schools like Penn even recruit homeschoolers.
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 09:44:04 PM »

While I do think that some religious homeschoolers shelter their children and sometimes resort to indoctrination,

What do you think the state run schools do?

Anyhow, option 3 (love freedom/not the states business).
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 09:46:34 PM »

While I do think that some religious homeschoolers shelter their children and sometimes resort to indoctrination,

What do you think the state run schools do?

Anyhow, option 3 (love freedom/not the states business).
Well, few accuse public schools of sheltering children...
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 09:49:21 PM »

While I do think that some religious homeschoolers shelter their children and sometimes resort to indoctrination,

What do you think the state run schools do?

Anyhow, option 3 (love freedom/not the states business).
Well, few accuse public schools of sheltering children...

No, I am referring to the indoctrination part.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 10:08:56 PM »

Please state a cogent argument for infringing on personal freedoms. If that is not possible, please delete this asinine question.

I apologize for not posting a topic worthy of your high standards?
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 10:09:20 PM »

No, as long as the kids can pass the required tests it should be fine.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 10:12:24 PM »

Please state a cogent argument for infringing on personal freedoms. If that is not possible, please delete this asinine question.

I apologize for not posting a topic worthy of your high standards?
I'm sorry if that posts sounds haughty. I only meant that if you're going to posit such a controversial proposition, it would be helpful if you posted an argument on its behalf.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 10:20:39 PM »

Please state a cogent argument for infringing on personal freedoms. If that is not possible, please delete this asinine question.

I apologize for not posting a topic worthy of your high standards?
I'm sorry if that posts sounds haughty. I only meant that if you're going to posit such a controversial proposition, it would be helpful if you posted an argument on its behalf.

Well I was opposed to it, but what my friend was saying was that as a society we need a well-educated population and the only way to assure that was by making sure they had a public, state-monitored education. They also cited homeschooled kids not developing the social and personality skills that kids who have a traditional education develop, which is also harmful to society as a whole. Basically a general feeling that having compulsory public education may infringe on personal liberties but it's better for society as a whole.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 10:26:24 PM »

Option 2, but it should be seriously discouraged.
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 10:40:29 PM »


Option 3.  As long as the students are being taught the state-required material (which they must pass a test on), then there is nothing wrong with homeschooling.  People that have a rose bush up their backside on this issue really need to get over themselves.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 10:47:30 PM »


Option 3.  As long as the students are being taught the state-required material (which they must pass a test on), then there is nothing wrong with homeschooling.  People that have a rose bush up their backside on this issue really need to get over themselves.

Hey, MODU.. some roses that grow wild around here don't even have thorns.

I generally agree with what you said though.
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2008, 11:01:52 PM »

I vote "No" (I value liberty). I second what Philip said.
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2008, 11:04:49 PM »

Only if the parent is certfied but I don't understand why some get all flustered up about banning it or even certifying parents. Sure I don't think it is wise to homeschool children and I don't think it helps kids at all but rather shelter them but it is not the government's job to decide what is best for your kid unless it is common knowlede.

With regards to certifying parents I think the process should be easy, straight forward and take a very small amount of time. They do not need to be trained extensivley but the government should provide a slew of resources to help parents teach their kids if they are homeschooled.
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2008, 11:06:21 PM »

Only if the parent is certfied but I don't understand why some get all flustered up about banning it or even certifying parents. Sure I don't think it is wise to homeschool children and I don't think it helps kids at all but rather shelter them but it is not the government's job to decide what is best for your kid unless it is common knowlede.

With regards to certifying parents I think the process should be easy, straight forward and take a very small amount of time. They do not need to be trained extensivley but the government should provide a slew of resources to help parents teach their kids if they are homeschooled.

Why try to break down what's worked in human society for hundreds of years before government engineered thought factories?
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2008, 11:07:19 PM »


Obviously not for children, though.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2008, 11:08:26 PM »

Only if the parent is certfied but I don't understand why some get all flustered up about banning it or even certifying parents. Sure I don't think it is wise to homeschool children and I don't think it helps kids at all but rather shelter them but it is not the government's job to decide what is best for your kid unless it is common knowlede.

With regards to certifying parents I think the process should be easy, straight forward and take a very small amount of time. They do not need to be trained extensivley but the government should provide a slew of resources to help parents teach their kids if they are homeschooled.

Why try to break down what's worked in human society for hundreds of years before government engineered thought factories?
Ooops probably misread my post. What I meant to say was that those who want to ban it or make parents get certified need to learn that sometimes there are special cases for kids and the government should never decide what is wrong or right for those parents.
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2008, 11:14:43 PM »


What does that mean? Public education in any event is compulsory to age 16 or so.
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2008, 11:19:43 PM »

Because I don't believe sheltering children is giving them liberty.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2008, 11:22:52 PM »

Because I don't believe sheltering children is giving them liberty.

And it doesn't work into the lefts plan of brainwashing children either, isn't that right Mongo?
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2008, 11:24:45 PM »

Because I don't believe sheltering children is giving them liberty.

And it doesn't work into the lefts plan of brainwashing children either, isn't that right Mongo?
Were you ever in a public school? Just curious.
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2008, 11:26:48 PM »

Because I don't believe sheltering children is giving them liberty.

And it doesn't work into the lefts plan of brainwashing children either, isn't that right Mongo?
Were you ever in a public school? Just curious.

No, thank God. Catholic school for all 12 years.
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