Is the phrase "pot calls kettle black" racist?
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Yes, it shouldn't matter what color the kettle is		  
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No, black kettles are just as evil as the pot		  
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« on: June 25, 2008, 03:21:01 PM »
Its your choose.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2008, 03:24:23 PM »
Only if the pot isn't black. If the pot is silver, it's extremely racist! Wink
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2008, 03:27:45 PM »
It is a slur on the racial integrity of silver and pewter pots and must be banned from polite society immediately!
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2008, 11:13:08 PM »
Quote from: Sir Havelock Vetinari on June 25, 2008, 03:27:45 PM
It is a slur on the racial integrity of silver and pewter pots and must be banned from polite society immediately!
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2008, 11:52:45 PM »
No, but I'm so sick of hearing people say it as if it's clever. Maybe the first 1000 times.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 07:19:31 AM »
Obviously not.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 12:31:11 PM »
How about "statue calling bedsheet white"?
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2008, 02:10:34 AM »
Quote from: John Wellington Wells on June 26, 2008, 01:12:46 AM
or that no one has read Uncle Remus' Tales to their children in 40 years. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2008, 04:43:23 PM »
Unfortunately, it's one of those words and phrases that while having a non-racial origin has picked up racial overtones.  If we still cooked over wood fires on a regular basis, this phrase, with its obvious reference to soot, wouldn't attract any controversy.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2008, 10:23:13 PM »
I must comment on your sig, Ernest:

It has caused me to imagine an interview between Russert and Jesus with Ol' Timmy pressing him...

"Now, Mr. Christ, you like to say you and your father are all one God yet in the Gospel of John you are quoted as saying 'my Father is greater than I.'  How do you explain these remarks?"
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2008, 12:54:46 PM »
Obviously racist.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2008, 05:37:56 PM »
Wow, I had no idea this phrase had picked up racial connotations.  Some people are WAY to sensitive.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2008, 06:51:30 PM »
Honestly... who uses a kettle now days anyway?  I mean, I guess you could argue that a teakettle is a kettle.. but still... I just can't see anyone on this forum laboring over a steaming kettle over the fireplace. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2008, 11:56:30 PM »
Quote from: Snowguy716 on June 28, 2008, 06:51:30 PM
Honestly... who uses a kettle now days anyway?  I mean, I guess you could argue that a teakettle is a kettle.. but still... I just can't see anyone on this forum laboring over a steaming kettle over the fireplace.

Speak for yourself, I can see Naso doing it while his wife fetches the venison from the meat cabin.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2008, 12:52:17 AM »
No (normal).  Crazy Al is an idiot.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2008, 05:37:21 AM »
Quote from: dead0man on June 28, 2008, 05:37:56 PM
Wow, I had no idea this phrase had picked up racial connotations.  Some people are WAY to sensitive.

It didn't 'pick up' racial connotations - racial connotations were the very motivation behind its original formulation!
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2008, 11:25:05 AM »
Cite?
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2008, 12:22:55 PM »

No need - the very phrase itself contains the presumption that black is 'bad'; a negative; an insult.
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2008, 12:59:50 PM »
But black=bad doesn't have racial connotations.  It comes from darkness=scary.  The unknown can be dangerous.  Yaddy yaddy.  I know a lot of people like to make the black=bad=racist argument, I just don't think it's a very good one.

But I could understand why a black guy might not like the fact that black=bad, but perceived racism isn't the same as real racism.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2008, 01:10:45 PM »
Quote from: dead0man on June 29, 2008, 12:59:50 PM
But black=bad doesn't have racial connotations.  It comes from darkness=scary.  The unknown can be dangerous.  Yaddy yaddy.  I know a lot of people like to make the black=bad=racist argument, I just don't think it's a very good one.

But I could understand why a black guy might not like the fact that black=bad, but perceived racism isn't the same as real racism.

In all seriousness it makes a lot more sense that an insult is based on comparing someone to a totally despised and subjugated person who exemplifies all that is considered low and degrading in society than the rather abstract and neutral concept, 'the dark'.
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2008, 02:10:27 PM »
Well once again your sense and the facts don't agree.  From wiki:
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