Strongest Independent Candidacy

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Discuss. 

I voted for TR, btw.

Second Perot should be '96, not '00

[Hash]

Define "strongest". Most votes, best candidate, best ideas, what?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Define "strongest". Most votes, best candidate, best ideas, what?

Overall electability, and running a good campaign.  The normal ways we measure a strong campaign.

[Хahar 🤔]

Roosevelt, since he won states outside his home region.

[NDN]

Where's Eugene Debbs? Not that I think he had the strongest campaign, that was clearly Roosevelt in '12 with Perot in '92 a distant second.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Where's Eugene Debbs?

Oversight on my part.

[Stranger in a strange land]

TR in 1912, because he actually beat one of the major parties.

[King]

This poll would be interesting if you got rid of President Roosevelt.

[Хahar 🤔]

This poll would be interesting if you got rid of President Roosevelt.

No, then Perot would dominate.

[WalterMitty]

technically, wasnt abe lincoln a 3d party candidate in 1864?

[True Democrat]

technically, wasnt abe lincoln a 3d party candidate in 1864?

1864?  No.  The Republicans just renamed the party.

[Erc]

This poll would be interesting if you got rid of President Roosevelt.

No, then Perot would dominate.

Except that Perot didn't win a single state.  If it weren't for the LeMay selection, I would say Wallace '68 would hands down beat Perot '92.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

This poll would be interesting if you got rid of President Roosevelt.

No, then Perot would dominate.

Except that Perot didn't win a single state.  If it weren't for the LeMay selection, I would say Wallace '68 would hands down beat Perot '92.

But outside of the South, Wallace did very poorly.  Perot had appeal throughout the country.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Look at the actual impact of the races.

Wallace got solid 10%+ across the rust belt - many where Humphrey either just won or just lost.

[DownWithTheLeft]

technically, wasnt abe lincoln a 3d party candidate in 1864?

Not 1864, but I think the GOP could be considered a 3rd party in 1860, thus making him the only 3rd party candidate to win the White House

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Look at the actual impact of the races.

Wallace got solid 10%+ across the rust belt - many where Humphrey either just won or just lost.

You could make the same point about Perot in a larger number of states.

[True Democrat]

technically, wasnt abe lincoln a 3d party candidate in 1864?

Not 1864, but I think the GOP could be considered a 3rd party in 1860, thus making him the only 3rd party candidate to win the White House

Nope.  Not in 1860 either.

If the GOP was a third party in 1860, what was the second party?

[Хahar 🤔]

technically, wasnt abe lincoln a 3d party candidate in 1864?

Not 1864, but I think the GOP could be considered a 3rd party in 1860, thus making him the only 3rd party candidate to win the White House

Nope.  Not in 1860 either.

If the GOP was a third party in 1860, what was the second party?

Constitutional Union, perhaps?

[jimrtex]

technically, wasnt abe lincoln a 3d party candidate in 1864?

Not 1864, but I think the GOP could be considered a 3rd party in 1860, thus making him the only 3rd party candidate to win the White House

Nope.  Not in 1860 either.

If the GOP was a third party in 1860, what was the second party?

The Republicans were the largest party in the House from 1859.  The American Party and Whigs were largely gone by then.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

technically, wasnt abe lincoln a 3d party candidate in 1864?

Not 1864, but I think the GOP could be considered a 3rd party in 1860, thus making him the only 3rd party candidate to win the White House

Nope.  Not in 1860 either.

If the GOP was a third party in 1860, what was the second party?

Constitutional Union, perhaps?

Or perhaps Southern Democrats?

[Dan the Roman]

technically, wasnt abe lincoln a 3d party candidate in 1864?

Not 1864, but I think the GOP could be considered a 3rd party in 1860, thus making him the only 3rd party candidate to win the White House

Nope.  Not in 1860 either.

If the GOP was a third party in 1860, what was the second party?

The Republicans were the largest party in the House from 1859.  The American Party and Whigs were largely gone by then.

Well the Republicans simply took over the Whig aperatus in the North, while the Constitutional Unionists took it over in the South.

[© tweed]

Perot would have had a shot to do some long-lasting damage if he didn't run the most incompetent campaign in history.