AK: Rasmussen: Obama within 4 points of McCain

[Tender Branson]

New Poll: Alaska President by Rasmussen on 2008-06-22

Summary: D: 41%, R: 45%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

[© tweed]

doesn't bode all too well for Begich (is that the name of the guy who's running against Stevens?) as he's barely running ahead of Obama in the same poll.

[Alcon]

Isn't Maine supposed to be out too?

[JohnCA246]

Might be worth it  for Obama to show a little bit of effort in Alaska.  WHen I lived there, everyone would freak out if anyone paid us any attention whatsoever, be it Metallica or the Pope.

[Wiz in Wis]

Might be worth it  for Obama to show a little bit of effort in Alaska.  WHen I lived there, everyone would freak out if anyone paid us any attention whatsoever, be it Metallica or the Pope.

How much could advertising possibly cost here too. Anchorage, Fairbanks, and Juneau are the only real media markets. 100 Grand in TV and radio, maybe a VP visit in the late summer. At least make McCain work for it.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

I would LOVE to win Alaska for some reason. 

[JohnCA246]

Whats also good about AK, is that most of the population is in the Anchorage.  Like I said earlier, it's not worth it to really target the state, but just a minimal showing I think would do a lot to get people excited.

[exopolitician]

[kevinatcausa]

What's also good about Alaska is that it has a Senate race that seems to be  a near tossup. 

I don't think the state will be competitive in the Presidential race, but if Obama can manage to increase turnout it could make the difference in the Senate race.   

[Lief 🗽]

Obama should spend money in Alaska. Alaska being called for Obama at 3 in the morning would be the best thing ever.

[JohnCA246]

hey it'd worth worth staying up for one more drink eh?

[The Ex-Factor]

Obama should spend money in Alaska. Alaska being called for Obama at 3 in the morning would be the best thing ever.

The best thing ever would be the pundits projecting the election as a 269-269 tie, with Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico, and New Hampshire flipping, then all of a sudden Alaska comes in for Obama and he wins the election 272-266.

[CultureKing]

I have always thought that Alaska really is more moderate than it shows. Perhaps as oil declines in importance Alaska will begin to look more like its Pacific peers.

[CARLHAYDEN]

New Poll: Alaska President by Rasmussen on 2008-06-22

Summary: D: 41%, R: 45%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Please correct the data.  The 7% is "Other" NOT unsure or undecided..  There is also 6% "Not sure."

[Alcon]

New Poll: Alaska President by Rasmussen on 2008-06-22

Summary: D: 41%, R: 45%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Please correct the data.  The 7% is "Other" NOT unsure or undecided..  There is also 6% "Not sure."

He entered it correctly.  The "U" is for "undecided."  If you click on the polling link, it shows 7% Other, 7% Undecided.  The latter is rounded up from 6% by Dave's software so that everything adds to 100%.

[CARLHAYDEN]

New Poll: Alaska President by Rasmussen on 2008-06-22

Summary: D: 41%, R: 45%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Please correct the data.  The 7% is "Other" NOT unsure or undecided..  There is also 6% "Not sure."

He entered it correctly.  The "U" is for "undecided."  If you click on the polling link, it shows 7% Other, 7% Undecided.  The latter is rounded up from 6% by Dave's software so that everything adds to 100%.

Typical Alcon.

The figures I quoted are correct, and you are incorrect.

I realize that lefties like you have difficulty comprehending the difference between "Not sure" (the definition used by Rasmussen) and "Other" (the definition used by Rasmussen for candidates other than the Democrat or Republican).

Now, a little simple math:

D     41
R     45
O       7
N       6
T     99

Oh, and what you are implying is that its both acceptable to leave out the "other" vote as well as both round up and change the definition of the "not sure" vote vote to "Undecided."

[Alcon]

No, CARL.  You have no idea what you're talking about.  When we enter a poll into Dave's database, it automatically creates these topics.  Tender did not write the post himself; a computer did.

Tender entered the poll as:

Democrat: 41%
Republican: 45%
Other: 7%
Undecided: 6%

Do you dispute that this conforms with Rasmussen's findings?

Dave's software noticed that this adds up to 99%, and thus tacked on another 1% to undecided. If you click the link, you'll see it displays as:

Democrat: 41%
Republican: 45%
Other: 7%
Undecided: 7% (with the other tacked on to round to 100%)

The "other" votes are included in the link I gave you to the poll database.  The software that adds polls as posts to the Forum does not show "Other" in the auto-generated forum post.  However, it is included in the poll entry -- again, that's the link I gave you.

As far as I know, "undecided" is not a poll option, but a volunteered (vol.) response, so distinguishing between "undecided" and "not sure" is pointless, especially since Dave's software does not allow for that.

But, really, you wouldn't know all of this, since you devote your time to inaccurately complaining instead of entering polls. 

[War on Want]

I have always thought that Alaska really is more moderate than it shows. Perhaps as oil declines in importance Alaska will begin to look more like its Pacific peers.

I don't think it has to do with oil, Anchorage also has a lot of suburbs that cancel out the liberalness of the city.

[Eraserhead]

Obama's popularity in this ultra Republican state is.. freakish to say the least.

[Ban my account ffs!]

It's like when Obama went to Grand Forks, North Dakota.. people were blown away by the fact that a presidential contender was coming to their little state that everybody forgot about.

[JohnCA246]

Anchorage doesn't have many suburbs at all.  The city itself is kind of one huge suburb.  Annexation has made it a geographically enormous city, in any other city where I lived would have been a suburb, but there was still part of the city.  Anchorage is not really liberal, trust me, Begich had some skill to get in and faced horrible opposition.  He's really the first Democrat to have nay success in the city for a long time. For his re-election campaign he even got to be the no new taxes candidate, because his Republican opponent wanted to create a sales tax to eventually replace property taxes, but the message didn't get through and everyone hated him anyway for being the voice of every freakin' annoying commercial in Anchorage.  So it was Begich vs the "seafood commercial guy" who wants a sales tax. 

[CARLHAYDEN]

No, CARL.  You have no idea what you're talking about.  When we enter a poll into Dave's database, it automatically creates these topics.  Tender did not write the post himself; a computer did.

Tender entered the poll as:

Democrat: 41%
Republican: 45%
Other: 7%
Undecided: 6%

Do you dispute that this conforms with Rasmussen's findings?

Dave's software noticed that this adds up to 99%, and thus tacked on another 1% to undecided. If you click the link, you'll see it displays as:

Democrat: 41%
Republican: 45%
Other: 7%
Undecided: 7% (with the other tacked on to round to 100%)

The "other" votes are included in the link I gave you to the poll database.  The software that adds polls as posts to the Forum does not show "Other" in the auto-generated forum post.  However, it is included in the poll entry -- again, that's the link I gave you.

As far as I know, "undecided" is not a poll option, but a volunteered (vol.) response, so distinguishing between "undecided" and "not sure" is pointless, especially since Dave's software does not allow for that.

But, really, you wouldn't know all of this, since you devote your time to inaccurately complaining instead of entering polls. 

So, you are contending that Dave's sofware automatically eliminates support for candidates other than Democrats and Republicans?

If so, then the software, in addition to rounding, excludes relevant information.

Yeah, excluding information, changing definitions, rounding numbers, etc. is the way Alcon likes things.

For Alcon, its better than being accurate.

[Alcon]

So, you are contending that Dave's sofware automatically eliminates support for candidates other than Democrats and Republicans?

If so, then the software, in addition to rounding, excludes relevant information.

No, "Other" is there in the poll database entry (are you incapable of clicking links?)  The software has options for:

Democrat
Republican
Other
Undecided

If those don't add up to 100, Dave's software (for whatever reason) rounds up by adding to Undecided.  The "Other" option is there in the poll database, but isn't reflected in the automatically-generated post.

Here's a simple way of calculating it:

100-Democrats-Republicans-Undecideds

...or, alternatively, clicking the database entry link I provided (and the original post did too).  Or, alternatively, you could click the link to the poll itself.

This is the third time I've had to explain to you what anyone could see by clicking the link I provided.  I thought I was supposed to be the slow one.

Yeah, excluding information, changing definitions, rounding numbers, etc. is the way Alcon likes things.

For Alcon, its better than being accurate.

You're the only one who could turn not understanding Dave's poll entry system to an attack on me.  Kudos.

[CARLHAYDEN]

New Poll: Alaska President by Rasmussen on 2008-06-22

Summary: D: 41%, R: 45%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Here's the exact posting.

Now, when you check the link you find that the data is a little different.

In the posting, there is NO mention whatsoever of "Other" support (even though it exceeds the "Not sure/Unsure" level in the poll), but the "Not sure/Unsure" is shown, abeit rounded up!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I love how everyone in here is fantasizing about the moment when Obama is declared the winner in Alaska. "I guess I could stay up to see them call it for Obama at 3 am!!!!"