NC: Rasmussen: McCain leads by 2

[ChrisFromNJ]

New Poll: North Carolina President by Rasmussen on 2008-06-12

Summary: D: 43%, R: 45%, U: 12%

Poll Source URL: http://tinyurl.com/6gufe3

[War on Want]

Nice!!! Obama seems to be making pretty big inroads here, but McCain will probably still win a five point victory or greater.

[Alcon]

This makes me want another poll out of Virginia pretty badly.

[jesmo]

See, I told yall, not everything will be like 2004 forever.

[Verily]

Interesting. When I heard there'd be another NC poll today, I expected McCain's margin to be up substantially from the last poll (taken right after the NC primary, with McCain up only 3). Now it's down!? Like Alcon said: Virginia, Virginia, Virginia!

[bullmoose88]

Interesting. When I heard there'd be another NC poll today, I expected McCain's margin to be up substantially from the last poll (taken right after the NC primary, with McCain up only 3). Now it's down!? Like Alcon said: Virginia, Virginia, Virginia!

Really?

You expected McCain to be up higher in NC after a boost to Obama from the Democratic love fest with Clinton dropping out?

I expected a lead between 1 and 4 points which will rise slowly until Denver, fall again to about this level, and rise at an unknown rate following Minneapolis-St. Paul.

As for Virginia, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar lead, right now, for Obama.

[Verily]

My point was that the previous poll came right after the NC primary--and we've seen big boosts for Obama [and Clinton] after each of the primaries only to fade away later (think Texas). Yes, I did expect this one to move towards McCain against the grain of most of the polls.

[Ronnie]

Not surprising at all.  Obama had a huge bounce in the polls recently because of Clinton dropping out.

When the bounce wears down at around convention time, I expect McCain to have a 7-8 point lead in North Carolina.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Interesting. When I heard there'd be another NC poll today, I expected McCain's margin to be up substantially from the last poll (taken right after the NC primary, with McCain up only 3). Now it's down!? Like Alcon said: Virginia, Virginia, Virginia!

Really?

You expected McCain to be up higher in NC after a boost to Obama from the Democratic love fest with Clinton dropping out?

I expected a lead between 1 and 4 points which will rise slowly until Denver, fall again to about this level, and rise at an unknown rate following Minneapolis-St. Paul.

As for Virginia, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar lead, right now, for Obama.

Many people from the right wing echo chamber have told us over the last few months that Obama has no chance of winning in North Carolina. Those who said that North Carolina was in play (like Josh22) were derided as lunatics by many right wingers.

And you expected Obama to lead in North Carolina? This strikes me as a classic case of "moving the goalposts"..

[Sbane]

Where the hell are Josh and duke? I want them to battle over this poll. LOL

[bullmoose88]

Interesting. When I heard there'd be another NC poll today, I expected McCain's margin to be up substantially from the last poll (taken right after the NC primary, with McCain up only 3). Now it's down!? Like Alcon said: Virginia, Virginia, Virginia!

Really?

You expected McCain to be up higher in NC after a boost to Obama from the Democratic love fest with Clinton dropping out?

I expected a lead between 1 and 4 points which will rise slowly until Denver, fall again to about this level, and rise at an unknown rate following Minneapolis-St. Paul.

As for Virginia, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar lead, right now, for Obama.

Many people from the right wing echo chamber have told us over the last few months that Obama has no chance of winning in North Carolina. Those who said that North Carolina was in play (like Josh22) were derided as lunatics by many right wingers.

And you expected Obama to lead in North Carolina? This strikes me as a classic case of "moving the goalposts"..

No, I said I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama lead in VA.

[ChrisFromNJ]

Interesting. When I heard there'd be another NC poll today, I expected McCain's margin to be up substantially from the last poll (taken right after the NC primary, with McCain up only 3). Now it's down!? Like Alcon said: Virginia, Virginia, Virginia!

Really?

You expected McCain to be up higher in NC after a boost to Obama from the Democratic love fest with Clinton dropping out?

I expected a lead between 1 and 4 points which will rise slowly until Denver, fall again to about this level, and rise at an unknown rate following Minneapolis-St. Paul.

As for Virginia, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar lead, right now, for Obama.

Many people from the right wing echo chamber have told us over the last few months that Obama has no chance of winning in North Carolina. Those who said that North Carolina was in play (like Josh22) were derided as lunatics by many right wingers.

And you expected Obama to lead in North Carolina? This strikes me as a classic case of "moving the goalposts"..

No, I said I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama lead in VA.

Another state that the right wing echo chamber, led by AHHDuke, told us Obama had no chance to win, and if we did say so, we were a bunch of Obama-homers.

[bullmoose88]

Interesting. When I heard there'd be another NC poll today, I expected McCain's margin to be up substantially from the last poll (taken right after the NC primary, with McCain up only 3). Now it's down!? Like Alcon said: Virginia, Virginia, Virginia!

Really?

You expected McCain to be up higher in NC after a boost to Obama from the Democratic love fest with Clinton dropping out?

I expected a lead between 1 and 4 points which will rise slowly until Denver, fall again to about this level, and rise at an unknown rate following Minneapolis-St. Paul.

As for Virginia, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar lead, right now, for Obama.

Many people from the right wing echo chamber have told us over the last few months that Obama has no chance of winning in North Carolina. Those who said that North Carolina was in play (like Josh22) were derided as lunatics by many right wingers.

And you expected Obama to lead in North Carolina? This strikes me as a classic case of "moving the goalposts"..

No, I said I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama lead in VA.

Another start that the right wing echo chamber, lead by AHHDuke, told us Obama had no chance to win, and if we did say so, we were a bunch of Obama-homers.

You really are ignorant, aren't you?

[ChrisFromNJ]

You really are ignorant, aren't you?

I'm getting confused by all the spin and talking points from the right wing echo chamber.

[Josh/Devilman88]

I'm happy! I'm not going to say I told you so, because I want to see if this stays that same.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Not surprising. I've said that NC is about 8% more GOP than the national average. If Obama is up 6% nationally right now, it makes sense. No battling from me this time.

[bullmoose88]

You really are ignorant, aren't you?

I'm getting confused by all the spin and talking points from the right wing echo chamber.

And I'm surprised you were the fastest sperm.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Not surprising. I've said that NC is about 8% more GOP than the national average. If Obama is up 6% nationally right now, it makes sense. No battling from me this time.

For once I agree with you about something

[kevinatcausa]

From the list of survey questions, it appears Rasmussen asked each voter their opinion of Bush immediately before asking the McCain-Obama matchup.   

That seems like bad procedure, and may have somewhat tainted the questions afterwards. 

[Franzl]

See, I told yall, not everything will be like 2004 forever.

Idiot. Nobody ever contradicted you there. Go troll somewhere else.

[Person Man]

Well, I guessing the ultimate election will be 52-47, with NC about 7% more Republican than the national. I am guessing NC will come in at 48.5-50.5, which isn't good for the Republicans. I am guessing that by 2016, NC will be neutral to the N.A. and VA. will be by 2012.

[Adlai Stevenson]

Well, I guessing the ultimate election will be 52-47, with NC about 7% more Republican than the national. I am guessing NC will come in at 48.5-50.5, which isn't good for the Republicans. I am guessing that by 2016, NC will be neutral to the N.A. and VA. will be by 2012.

My prediction:

NORTH CAROLINA PRESIDENT -
51% (R) McCain
47% (D) Obama


Obama should win nationwide by about 52%-45% if all goes well. 

[TheresNoMoney]

McCain will win North Carolina, but he'll have to spend a lot of time and money there.

[WalterMitty]

McCain will win North Carolina, but he'll have to spend a lot of time and money there.

allow me to mark this down.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Nice poll, but it won't stay this way.  McCain will win by around 52-47.