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« Reply #1475 on: October 16, 2008, 12:42:29 PM »

As a McCain supporter I don't put too much stock in any slight gains he is seeing right now.. If the race has tightened to 3 or 4 nationally by next week at this time though it would be different.. for now... noise..
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« Reply #1476 on: October 16, 2008, 01:46:00 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2008, 02:51:46 PM by J. J. »

October 16, 2008

RV
Obama 49 (-1)
McCain 43 (nc)

LV (new voter formula)
Obama 51 (-1)
McCain 45 (+1)

LV (traditional)
Obama 49 (nc)
McCain 47 (+1)

great, now opebo, J.J., and Keystone Phil will be seen as oracles.

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My guess is that Obama is up by 3-4 points.  Any effects of the markets and of the debate will not show up until Saturday.
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« Reply #1477 on: October 16, 2008, 03:50:30 PM »

I'll take it that Obama is up by 4 nationally.

Where are you getting 4 from?
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« Reply #1478 on: October 16, 2008, 03:54:24 PM »

I'll take it that Obama is up by 4 nationally.

Where are you getting 4 from?

On this poll:

LV (new voter formula)
Obama 51 (-1)
McCain 45 (+1)

+6 Obama

LV (traditional)
Obama 49 (nc)
McCain 47 (+1)

+2 Obama

The 'bots say +4.
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« Reply #1479 on: October 16, 2008, 04:09:49 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.
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« Reply #1480 on: October 16, 2008, 04:10:21 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

Why do left wingers visit that hack's site?
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« Reply #1481 on: October 16, 2008, 04:11:15 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.
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« Reply #1482 on: October 16, 2008, 04:13:39 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.

He's right only if you cherry pick data. Typical Drudge.
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« Reply #1483 on: October 16, 2008, 04:20:04 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.

McCain moving up a point from yesterday is a ''shock poll''?
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« Reply #1484 on: October 16, 2008, 04:20:20 PM »

Drudge is quite predictable sometimes.
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« Reply #1485 on: October 16, 2008, 04:25:30 PM »

Palin changed Drudge's mood on the race, he decided to do everything he could to boost the GOP ticket after she was picked..
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« Reply #1486 on: October 16, 2008, 04:29:18 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.

McCain moving up a point from yesterday is a ''shock poll''?

The likely voter one is.  I think the real story is the closing across polls.
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« Reply #1487 on: October 16, 2008, 04:29:49 PM »

Palin changed Drudge's mood on the race, he decided to do everything he could to boost the GOP ticket after she was picked..

Must be in love.
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« Reply #1488 on: October 16, 2008, 05:41:43 PM »

I saw that. I'm finished trying to guess this race. I'll just wait till the votes come in.
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« Reply #1489 on: October 16, 2008, 05:45:21 PM »

I saw that. I'm finished trying to guess this race. I'll just wait till the votes come in.

Obama probably peaked last week. The race is back on now, even Obama is worried. He told his supporters at a New York fundraiser not to let down their guard and keep fighting. That alone proves that even Obama knows his victory isn't certain.

Prevent Defense sucks.
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« Reply #1490 on: October 16, 2008, 05:49:17 PM »

Well I'm not sold on an Obama victory just yet. McCain seems to have done better in the debate lady night, especially if ChrisNJ admits it. The state polls still don't matchup, but I know they always lag behind the national ones.
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« Reply #1491 on: October 16, 2008, 05:49:33 PM »

I saw that. I'm finished trying to guess this race. I'll just wait till the votes come in.

Obama probably peaked last week. The race is back on now, even Obama is worried. He told his supporters at a New York fundraiser not to let down their guard and keep fighting. That alone proves that even Obama knows his victory isn't certain.

Prevent Defense sucks.

As long as no da*n extenal events happen, and the DOW  stablilizes. Ladies and gentlemen we will have a toss-up race by the middle of next week.
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« Reply #1492 on: October 16, 2008, 07:35:54 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.

McCain moving up a point from yesterday is a ''shock poll''?

The likely voter one is.  I think the real story is the closing across polls.

Movement of a point in Gallup or Rasmussen is not shocking. Now if McCain actually took the lead back in either of these polls, that would be pretty surprising.
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« Reply #1493 on: October 16, 2008, 07:37:26 PM »

Well I'm not sold on an Obama victory just yet. McCain seems to have done better in the debate lady night, especially if ChrisNJ admits it. The state polls still don't matchup, but I know they always lag behind the national ones.

ChrisfromNJ didn't even watch the debate.
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« Reply #1494 on: October 16, 2008, 07:40:01 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.

McCain moving up a point from yesterday is a ''shock poll''?

The likely voter one is.  I think the real story is the closing across polls.

Movement of a point in Gallup or Rasmussen is not shocking. Now if McCain actually took the lead back in either of these polls, that would be pretty surprising.

An 11 point to 2 point difference in a week is "shocking" unless you are one of us and follow the polls closely.
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« Reply #1495 on: October 16, 2008, 07:45:12 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.

McCain moving up a point from yesterday is a ''shock poll''?

The likely voter one is.  I think the real story is the closing across polls.

Movement of a point in Gallup or Rasmussen is not shocking. Now if McCain actually took the lead back in either of these polls, that would be pretty surprising.

An 11 point to 2 point difference in a week is "shocking" unless you are one of us and follow the polls closely.

Well, it didn't go from 11 to 2. Those are different polls. People who can't understand that should be called out for being dumbs.
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« Reply #1496 on: October 16, 2008, 07:52:21 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.

McCain moving up a point from yesterday is a ''shock poll''?

The likely voter one is.  I think the real story is the closing across polls.

Movement of a point in Gallup or Rasmussen is not shocking. Now if McCain actually took the lead back in either of these polls, that would be pretty surprising.

An 11 point to 2 point difference in a week is "shocking" unless you are one of us and follow the polls closely.

That 11-point difference is now a 6-point difference, J. J. Registered voters remember Smiley

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« Reply #1497 on: October 16, 2008, 08:20:29 PM »

Drudge has the headline "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA 49 McCAIN 47"

Oh Drudge... lol.

He's right, so far as he goes.  LOL.

McCain moving up a point from yesterday is a ''shock poll''?

The likely voter one is.  I think the real story is the closing across polls.

Movement of a point in Gallup or Rasmussen is not shocking. Now if McCain actually took the lead back in either of these polls, that would be pretty surprising.

An 11 point to 2 point difference in a week is "shocking" unless you are one of us and follow the polls closely.

That 11-point difference is now a 6-point difference, J. J. Registered voters remember Smiley

Dave

Like I said, "unless you are one of us and follow the polls closely."  You know that there is a difference, but it is very likely that most people won't.

In reality that 11 point lead was just a bad sample, in all probability and Obama hasn't really "dropped" by 6 points, much less 9.
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« Reply #1498 on: October 16, 2008, 08:28:36 PM »


Like I said, "unless you are one of us and follow the polls closely."  You know that there is a difference, but it is very likely that most people won't.

You're being intellectually dishonest. YOU know the difference.
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« Reply #1499 on: October 16, 2008, 08:33:00 PM »

I'm not getting my hopes up.  When the 700 point Dow slide and the debate make their way into the polls tomorrow, I expect Obama to get a 2 point bounce tomorrow.
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