Gallup Tracking Poll Thread [Obama vs McCain]

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No, the media is in the bag for Obama. I'd bet my next paycheck that this is the following outcome of the debates as "analyzed" by the media :

Palin/Biden : Biden Win
McCain/Obama 2 debates : Obama win or slight win.

I wouldn't expect the filthy liars in the media to give any other result.

[J. J.]

The numbers, at this point, are crisis driven; the crisis ends, the Obama lead ends.

SAY SOMETHING NON-HACKISH FOR ONCE

I didn't say the crisis would end or would end soon enough, but that has been driving the numbers.

[Nym90]

No, the media is in the bag for Obama. I'd bet my next paycheck that this is the following outcome of the debates as "analyzed" by the media :

Palin/Biden : Biden Win
McCain/Obama 2 debates : Obama win or slight win.

I wouldn't expect the filthy liars in the media to give any other result.

Not to mention those filthy liars in the general public who keep saying in polls that Obama won, too.

Taken of people who had just finished watching the debates and not had a chance to digest any media analysis.

Of course, the media spun the 2000 debates that Gore won, right?

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No, the media is in the bag for Obama. I'd bet my next paycheck that this is the following outcome of the debates as "analyzed" by the media :

Palin/Biden : Biden Win
McCain/Obama 2 debates : Obama win or slight win.

I wouldn't expect the filthy liars in the media to give any other result.

Not to mention those filthy liars in the general public who keep saying in polls that Obama won, too.

Taken of people who had just finished watching the debates and not had a chance to digest any media analysis.

Of course, the media spun the 2000 debates that Gore won, right?

Polls are just catnip for pundits. Fun to look at but not very reliable and I'm a huge skeptic of polls.

You should be happy. The media is on board fully towards electing your socialist buddy.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Winning the debate spin is more important than winning the debate. In 2004 most pundits agreed Bush won the second debate and the third was basically considered a tie, but Kerry's team had better media spin. By the end it became a talking point Kerry won all three debates. That's basically happened with the first debate. I still haven't seen it yet so I'm not saying who actually won but there's no doubt Obama won the media spin. Of course McCain's little suspension stunt no doubt helped in that.

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Winning the debate spin is more important than winning the debate. In 2004 most pundits agreed Bush won the second debate and the third was basically considered a tie, but Kerry's team had better media spin. By the end it became a talking point Kerry won all three debates. That's basically happened with the first debate. I still haven't seen it yet so I'm not saying who actually won but there's no doubt Obama won the media spin. Of course McCain's little suspension stunt no doubt helped in that.

Not hard when you have the full force of the media at your back, like the wind in sails.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Winning the debate spin is more important than winning the debate. In 2004 most pundits agreed Bush won the second debate and the third was basically considered a tie, but Kerry's team had better media spin. By the end it became a talking point Kerry won all three debates. That's basically happened with the first debate. I still haven't seen it yet so I'm not saying who actually won but there's no doubt Obama won the media spin. Of course McCain's little suspension stunt no doubt helped in that.

Not hard when you have the full force of the media at your back, like the wind in sails.

The reason is more McCain's suspending his campaign stunt as I noticed. As for 2004, it mostly came from how awful Bush was in the first debate. He was so bad that the idea of him winning a debate became laughable even if he did perform better later. If Bush had performed decent in the first debate and tanked in the third, he probably would've won the spin for the second.

[Joe Republic]

Not hard when you have the full force of the media at your back, like the wind in sails.

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The media is on board fully towards electing your socialist buddy.

The media is in the bag for Obama so by default, Biden win.

No, the media is in the bag for Obama. I'd bet my next paycheck that this is the following outcome of the debates as "analyzed" by the media :

Palin/Biden : Biden Win
McCain/Obama 2 debates : Obama win or slight win.

I wouldn't expect the filthy liars in the media to give any other result.

Well, it wasn't to hard to predict the media would give the "win" to Obama. I knew that no matter how well McCain did they were going to say Obama won.  The media is completely carrying all the water for Obama. They are doing everything they can to get him in office it's quite obvious.

Well, it's quite obvious to anyone who doesn't read the lying newspapers that we've pretty much won the Iraq war.

[The Ex-Factor]

never mind

[Firefly]

Not hard when you have the full force of the media at your back, like the wind in sails.

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The media is on board fully towards electing your socialist buddy.

The media is in the bag for Obama so by default, Biden win.

No, the media is in the bag for Obama. I'd bet my next paycheck that this is the following outcome of the debates as "analyzed" by the media :

Palin/Biden : Biden Win
McCain/Obama 2 debates : Obama win or slight win.

I wouldn't expect the filthy liars in the media to give any other result.

Well, it wasn't to hard to predict the media would give the "win" to Obama. I knew that no matter how well McCain did they were going to say Obama won.  The media is completely carrying all the water for Obama. They are doing everything they can to get him in office it's quite obvious.

Well, it's quite obvious to anyone who doesn't read the lying newspapers that we've pretty much won the Iraq war.

Detecting a theme?  It appears StatesRights has entered the first stage of grief, denial, specifically denial of responsibility:

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[Sam Spade]

Monday, September 29, 2008
Obama 50% (nc)
McCain 42% (nc)

[Thomas Jackson]

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No, StatesRights is exactly right. Those on the left vastly underestimate the absolute hatred that this election has generated for the media.

Many of us now regard the media as nothing more than political terrorists. They are vile scum, liars of the worst order.

There are consequences to everything. And the media has yet to see the consequences of their decision to become the "Pravda of Amerika."

The fallout from this will be massive.

[Eraserhead]

A day of very little movement in the tracking polls. Fine by me, considering where the race stands.

[Firefly]

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No, StatesRights is exactly right. Those on the left vastly underestimate the absolute hatred that this election has generated for the media.

Many of us now regard the media as nothing more than political terrorists. They are vile scum, liars of the worst order.

There are consequences to everything. And the media has yet to see the consequences of their decision to become the "Pravda of Amerika."

The fallout from this will be massive.

rofl!  You obviously have your finger on the pulse of America.  Or not.

Oh, and it appears that ghostmonkey has already advanced to the 2nd stage of grief, anger.

[Sam Spade]

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No, StatesRights is exactly right. Those on the left vastly underestimate the absolute hatred that this election has generated for the media.

Many of us now regard the media as nothing more than political terrorists. They are vile scum, liars of the worst order.

There are consequences to everything. And the media has yet to see the consequences of their decision to become the "Pravda of Amerika."

The fallout from this will be massive.

rofl!  You obviously have your finger on the pulse of America.  Or not.

Pulse of America, no.  Pulse of right-wing Republicans in this country (e.g. those who post on FR), possibly.

[Sbane]

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No, StatesRights is exactly right. Those on the left vastly underestimate the absolute hatred that this election has generated for the media.

Many of us now regard the media as nothing more than political terrorists. They are vile scum, liars of the worst order.

There are consequences to everything. And the media has yet to see the consequences of their decision to become the "Pravda of Amerika."

The fallout from this will be massive.

Faux news is a million times worse than anything the rest of the media does. In fact many still keep up with the "maverick" theme when Mccain obviously isn't one. He might have been in 2000 but he basically agrees with everything Bush and the republicans say now. Yet the media have always been friendly to him. Of course Palin deserves all the scorn she has got, except for the stuff about her daughter. In any case that was mostly the blogs who did that. Palin's interview has shown she is incapable of serving as President and Vice president and the media called her on it. Now stop your whining.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

The media has been nothing but friendly to McCain and Palin.  God, Palin should be getting destroyed for those embarrassing interviews. 

[Thomas Jackson]

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I find it amazing that Obama supporters operate from narrow set of talking points, no matter where they post on the net.

The "stages of grief/dying" talking point is on almost every liberal political forum that I have visited. Can you people at least demonstrate some independent thought?

FYI: The "stages of grief/dying" talking point can only be correct if the election is important enough to grieve/die over.

Leftists who believe that government is their shepherd might believe that, but I know of no conservative who does. Conservatives realize that government only has as much power as the people voluntarily cede to them. As the 2nd Amendment is alive and well in this country, there is only so much that a leftist government could get away with.

I know that thought might devastate many on the left, but it is a categorical truth.

[Thomas Jackson]

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Fox objective reports both sides of a story. That's why the left hates them so much. They want one-sided Pravda coverage. Not objective reporting that allows the people to make a decision.

That's why Fox is hated by the left. They don't want the conservative side reported on anywhere.

Palin has more experience, and is more capable than Obama. The media knows this, so they run attack story after attack story, day in, day out.

For the most part they have left McCain alone. Everything has been targeted at Palin. Why? Because Palin represents what the elitists in the media hate the most. A down-to-earth Christian Conservative, who happens to be a woman.

The media hates her because of her faith. It's a secular jihad against Christians.

[Firefly]

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I find it amazing that Obama supporters operate from narrow set of talking points, no matter where they post on the net.

The "stages of grief/dying" talking point is on almost every liberal political forum that I have visited. Can you people at least demonstrate some independent thought?

FYI: The "stages of grief/dying" talking point can only be correct if the election is important enough to grieve/die over.

Leftists who believe that government is their shepherd might believe that, but I know of no conservative who does. Conservatives realize that government only has as much power as the people voluntarily cede to them. As the 2nd Amendment is alive and well in this country, there is only so much that a leftist government could get away with.

I know that thought might devastate many on the left, but it is a categorical truth.

I'm sure you visit liberal political forums more than I do </sarcasm>, but I haven't seen anyone talking about the stages of grief.  Don't fret, acceptance is only two more stages away.

[Thomas Jackson]

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There is nothing wrong with Palin's interviews, other than the fact that she has been interviewed by partisan hacks (Couric and Gibson) who are willfully conducting the interviews in a "gotcha" manner.

Considering what she is up against, she has done a magnificent job.

The left would love to believe that Palin is a drooling idiot. Fact is, she is an accomplished executive, she is well-spoken, and she is the governor of the largest State in the country.

The filthy blowhards on internet boards and in the media are not capable of running a board meeting, let alone a city or State.

Thing is, deep down the scum know that they can't hold a candle to Palin. So they resort to trashing her.

[Thomas Jackson]

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I realize that you are attempting sarcasm, but it is likely that I DO visit liberal political forums more than you do. I like to read the talking points before they get repeated elsewhere.

And yes, the "stages of grief" narrative is plastered all over them.

What's more, it's not even a new narrative. Laughably, liberals had the EXACT same narrative going in 2004.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2160846

I cannot believe that one would willingly retreat to the same tired talking points over and over, especially after that epic fail.

[Alcon]

Could you be bothered to move this exciting effort to strain to connect comments from DU in 2004 to today somewhere else?

You're interrupting our Gallup-watching.

[Firefly]

Could you be bothered to move this exciting effort to strain to connect comments from DU in 2004 to today somewhere else?

You're interrupting our Gallup-watching.

Sorry, I'll stop feeding the trolls.

[Brittain33]

Many of us now regard the media as nothing more than political terrorists. They are vile scum, liars of the worst order.

You must have some polls showing widespread public support for the media before 2008, only to have it go downhill because of its coverage this year.

I'll take your word for it that Republicans approved on the media up until this moment, and only now got angry.