Presidential Comparison 4

[Kaine for Senate '18]

If they would just stay where they were supposed to be, and not invade another country, then we don't have a problem.  We didn't attack them, they attacked us first.

And what business did we have entangling ourselves in their civil war?  You basically admitted they were attacking S. Vietnam and not the US

The policy of containment.  They attacked an ally of ours.

No one is disputing that, that does not mean we did not provoke them.  Helping someone's enemy on their home turf seems like the textbook definition of provocation

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

[Хahar 🤔]

If they would just stay where they were supposed to be, and not invade another country, then we don't have a problem.  We didn't attack them, they attacked us first.

And what business did we have entangling ourselves in their civil war?  You basically admitted they were attacking S. Vietnam and not the US

The policy of containment.  They attacked an ally of ours.

No one is disputing that, that does not mean we did not provoke them.  Helping someone's enemy on their home turf seems like the textbook definition of provocation

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

To the irredentists (and, mind you, they had ample reason to be irredentists), being there was ample reason.

[DownWithTheLeft]

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

Didn't you argue in the other thread that the Union had every right to invade the Confederacy?  So its okay to invade soverign nations when it floats your boat?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

Didn't you argue in the other thread that the Union had every right to invade the Confederacy?  So its okay to invade soverign nations when it floats your boat?

The Confederacy had no right to secede in the first place.

[DownWithTheLeft]

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

Didn't you argue in the other thread that the Union had every right to invade the Confederacy?  So its okay to invade soverign nations when it floats your boat?

The Confederacy had no right to secede in the first place.

What right did South Vietnam have to be apart from North Vietnam?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

Didn't you argue in the other thread that the Union had every right to invade the Confederacy?  So its okay to invade soverign nations when it floats your boat?

The Confederacy had no right to secede in the first place.

What right did South Vietnam have to be apart from North Vietnam?

They were divided up, and it was agreed to.

[Хahar 🤔]

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

Didn't you argue in the other thread that the Union had every right to invade the Confederacy?  So its okay to invade soverign nations when it floats your boat?

The Confederacy had no right to secede in the first place.

What right did South Vietnam have to be apart from North Vietnam?

They were divided up, and it was agreed to.

By whom? De Gaulle?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

Didn't you argue in the other thread that the Union had every right to invade the Confederacy?  So its okay to invade soverign nations when it floats your boat?

The Confederacy had no right to secede in the first place.

What right did South Vietnam have to be apart from North Vietnam?

They were divided up, and it was agreed to.

By whom? De Gaulle?

The Geneva Agreements; although things would have been so much better if those elections had taken place.

[DownWithTheLeft]

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

Didn't you argue in the other thread that the Union had every right to invade the Confederacy?  So its okay to invade soverign nations when it floats your boat?

The Confederacy had no right to secede in the first place.

What right did South Vietnam have to be apart from North Vietnam?

They were divided up, and it was agreed to.

By whom? De Gaulle?

The Geneva Agreements; although things would have been so much better if those elections had taken place.

You have, thankfully, acknowledged the accords were broken

[Orser67]

Hoover actually raised taxes, tariffs, and spending a lot, laying the ground work for the New Deal.  It's just that he didn't do this until too late, and not until after he raised the tariff via the Smoot-Hawley Tariff.  So I wouldn't call him as bad as some say, nor would I call him a defender of small government.

On the other hand, I just think like Johnson's civil rights advocacy and social programs too much to vote for Hoover.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

We stayed in S. Vietnam, so it wasn't their turf.

Didn't you argue in the other thread that the Union had every right to invade the Confederacy?  So its okay to invade soverign nations when it floats your boat?

The Confederacy had no right to secede in the first place.

What right did South Vietnam have to be apart from North Vietnam?

They were divided up, and it was agreed to.

By whom? De Gaulle?

The Geneva Agreements; although things would have been so much better if those elections had taken place.

You have, thankfully, acknowledged the accords were broken

Of course; you cannot argue with the facts.