Washington 2020: The Calm Before the Drizzle

[Ogre Mage]

Ha Ha, Patty is all over Dino's Boeing Bungle like white on rice:

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politicsnorthwest/2012958497_demsflayrossiforboeingtankercomment.html

[ottermax]

These two candidates are why I hate the top-two system, there is no option for me to vote for.
Anyone else feel they may just leave this one blank?

The point is that you do get to vote for whoever you want in the primary without fear of spoiling the ballot and then you get to chose your favorite of the two most popular in the general. No Nader problems here and that sounds good to me.

[bgwah]

So Pam Roach's opponent is a child molester? lol

[Meeker]

The 31st District isn't allowed to elect people to the State Legislature anymore.

[Ogre Mage]

Patty is up with an ad attacking Dino's faux pas comment about the Boeing tanker contract.  If we see Rossi's numbers in Snohomish County collapse in November, this may be part of the reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOHdN8sdnwc&feature=channel


KIRO has a news story about it --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY63n8Dg6UQ&feature=channel

[JohnnyLongtorso]

I said a long time ago that Dino attacking Murray's earmarks was a stupid move for a state that depended on them.

[Meeker]

Can someone explain to me the difference between I-1100 and I-1105? I really don't get it.

[Alcon]

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Significance and details: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2012960050_liquor22.html

I don't know what to make of it all.  I'll good with privatization but I can't but help agree with the last quote.  It pretty much epitomizes everything wrong with the initiative process.

[Meeker]

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Significance and details: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2012960050_liquor22.html

I don't know what to make of it all.  I'll good with privatization but I can't but help agree with the last quote.  It pretty much epitomizes everything wrong with the initiative process.

Well that helped explain it but it didn't get me any closer to making a decision. I kind of like the notion of passing both of them and then having the Legislature work out the details. Or voting both of them down because the initiative process sucks.

[Alcon]

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Significance and details: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2012960050_liquor22.html

I don't know what to make of it all.  I'll good with privatization but I can't but help agree with the last quote.  It pretty much epitomizes everything wrong with the initiative process.

Well that helped explain it but it didn't get me any closer to making a decision. I kind of like the notion of passing both of them and then having the Legislature work out the details. Or voting both of them down because the initiative process sucks.

Couldn't agree more.  I figure I'll probably vote Yes on both unless I find a compelling reason not to, because it would go completely unnoticed as a protest vote, and the ends (someone more qualified makes the law instead) would be about the same.

[cannonia]

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Translation: Keeps the small breweries/wineries out of the market

[JohnnyLongtorso]

The 31st District isn't allowed to elect people to the State Legislature anymore.

http://www.seattlepi.com/opinion/427127_AWFULCHOICE.html

[bgwah]

The Democrats might as well try running a write-in candidate in the 31st.

[tmthforu94]

So Ann Coulter has a questionable piece up on Yahoo! today...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20101001/cm_ucac/pattymurraythestupidestpersoninamerica

It's headline is certainly an attention grabber, and one of the first things you see if you type in "Patty Murray". After reading it, trying to be as un-biased as personal, and then viewing her Wikipedia as well as her own website to counter the hackery of Coulter's post, I have a question:

Do a lot of people out there question Murray's intelligence level, or am I the only one? I mean, I'm not calling her stupid, but I'm not going to call her smart either.

[Хahar 🤔]

What do you expect from Ann Coulter? This is a serious question.

[Capitan Zapp Brannigan]

It's Ann Coulter..

Also, I don't really think she's dumb. Average intelligence probably.

[Alcon]

A little strained:  Three quotes over her career that are less indicative of systemic stupidity than poor phrasing, plus a pretty decent (but probably colored) attempt at spinning her life story.  My impression is that she's not the kind of person who reads the New York Times (like her colleagues say), and probably is not really as astute as I'd like a Senator to be, but she's not "stupid."  Not by actual-people standards.

Unrelated, but I wonder why Murray's residence is universally mentioned as Bothell when her voter address has been in Seattle's Westlake neighborhood for a long time.  Is her being from Seattle an oddly well-kept secret?  Even her Wikipedia page says "lifelong resident of Bothell."

[Meeker]

I've honestly only ever heard the "she's stupid" thing from people outside of the state - such as Torie. My personally opinion is that she's not the most intelligent Senator but she's certainly smart enough to be one.

[Meeker]

Just got my ballot. I think I'm going to vote No on 1100 and 1105. This process is just a mess and should be handled in a different way. Also, though I'm not opposed to privatizing liquor sale in any way at some point and understand that the state will lose revenue once that occurs, I'm not sure right now is when we should be doing it.

Other votes:

No on I-1053 (Tim Eyman nonsense)
No on I-1082 (insurance industry nonsense)
Yes on I-1098 (income tax)
No on I-1107 (repeal of candy and soda tax)
Yes on R-52 (energy efficiency projects in schools)
Yes on SJR 8225 (calculating the debt limit)
Yes on ESHJR 4220 (denial of bail)

The last one was a little tough; I sympathize with the liberal arguments against it.

And then I'll vote for all the Democrats of course. And write-in Stan Rumbaugh.

[Alcon]

Sonntag actually thinks I-1105 and especially I-1100 will save the state money in the long run, fwiw.  I suspect I'll vote Yes.  But then again I'm always suspicious of myself like that

[RI]

I'll probably vote the same way as Meeker on the propositions.

[bgwah]

Patty Murray is brilliant. Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Torie]

Patty Murray is brilliant. Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about.

That would not be the first time for me, but ...  well anyway, I admire your loyalty to your girl. By the way, Dick Morris says that Rossi is the most important GOP candidate to send money to. Rossi represents the 10th GOP pickup, and thus control of the Senate,  is the reason. So how much money do you think I should send Rossi, Bgwah?  

[ottermax]

Ok, well I can see where someone would get the idea that Murray isn't the most intelligent Senator. However aren't people generally disdainful about how uber-intelligent the Senate is anyways? I mean like most of the senators are from the Ivy Leagues and that definitely doesn't represent the American public well. It's probably just Murray's image as a soccer mom that makes her seem less "intelligent," but at the same time she's less of a snob image-wise than most of the senate.

Plus Dino Rossi comes across as an airhead to me....

[bgwah]

Patty Murray is brilliant. Anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about.

That would not be the first time for me, but ...  well anyway, I admire your loyalty to your girl. By the way, Dick Morris says that Rossi is the most important GOP candidate to send money to. Rossi represents the 10th GOP pickup, and thus control of the Senate,  is the reason. So how much money do you think I should send Rossi, Bgwah? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XSLfm_h1WY

Do you really think he sounds smart?