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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2008, 08:40:08 PM »

Watched the Republican senate debate, confirmed my belief that Dick Zimmer is trash.  Not only is he incredibly liberal, he blinks ever two seconds and has no public speaking ability.  Pennachio is a fool and talks like Elmer Fudd.  Sabrin was the only one who made sense or had any speaking ability.  He had a great comeback when Pennachio talked about winning 6 elections in a row, saying that it was like winning in the Soviet Union
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2008, 09:55:42 PM »

Watched the Republican senate debate, confirmed my belief that Dick Zimmer is trash.  Not only is he incredibly liberal, he blinks ever two seconds and has no public speaking ability.  Pennachio is a fool and talks like Elmer Fudd.  Sabrin was the only one who made sense or had any speaking ability.  He had a great comeback when Pennachio talked about winning 6 elections in a row, saying that it was like winning in the Soviet Union

Poor Murray Sabrin.  He's just jealous that, unlike Zimmer and Pennachio, he's never won a single damn thing.  And he won't have won a single damn thing after the primary, either.
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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2008, 08:16:57 PM »

Just a quick note, both the Star Ledger and the Philly Inquirer endorsed Rob Andrews.
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2008, 08:16:40 AM »

I am officially predicting a Pennachio/Andrews race.  Tough decision for me
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2008, 04:37:40 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0mccyZIGlk

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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2008, 05:55:06 PM »


I hope Andrews wins.

I don't expect it though.

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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2008, 06:26:35 PM »

Lautenberg will win by double digits. Andrews is a "go whichever way the wind is bliowing" type of Democrat, and that's not what we need.
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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2008, 09:06:06 PM »

I don't know how to predict either primary. The GOP race seems to be totally up in the air. As for the Dems, word is that things are looking good for Andrews, especially with these big newspaper endorsements. I hope he wins.
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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2008, 09:07:55 PM »

I have seen some Andrews ads in the NYC market over the past couple of days.  That's all I can add.

The real question here is:  Who does the Mafia want to win?
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2008, 09:18:22 PM »

I have seen some Andrews ads in the NYC market over the past couple of days.  That's all I can add.

The real question here is:  Who does the Mafia want to win?
Well, Lautenberg does not have an Italian ring to it, I'd say Pennachio
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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2008, 09:19:47 PM »

I have seen some Andrews ads in the NYC market over the past couple of days.  That's all I can add.

The real question here is:  Who does the Mafia want to win?
Well, Lautenberg does not have an Italian ring to it, I'd say Pennachio

That doesn't matter much to the Mafia when it comes to business. If we want to use stereotypes, the Mafia works with Jews.
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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2008, 09:20:23 PM »

I have seen some Andrews ads in the NYC market over the past couple of days.  That's all I can add.

The real question here is:  Who does the Mafia want to win?
Well, Lautenberg does not have an Italian ring to it, I'd say Pennachio

That doesn't matter much to the Mafia when it comes to business. If we want to use stereotypes, the Mafia works with Jews.
True, Sabrin has a shot after all!
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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2008, 11:22:27 PM »

Lautenberg will win by double digits. Andrews is a "go whichever way the wind is bliowing" type of Democrat, and that's not what we need.


Andrews has been a pretty solid moderate-to-liberal Democrat his entire time in office.
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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2008, 11:39:49 PM »

Lautenberg will win by double digits. Andrews is a "go whichever way the wind is bliowing" type of Democrat, and that's not what we need.


Andrews has been a pretty solid moderate-to-liberal Democrat his entire time in office.

They don't care to hear that. As long as he's popular with Republicans (especially Republicans like me), they will dislike the guy. He'll make a great Senator if he wins.
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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2008, 12:28:25 AM »

Lautenberg will win by double digits. Andrews is a "go whichever way the wind is bliowing" type of Democrat, and that's not what we need.


Andrews has been a pretty solid moderate-to-liberal Democrat his entire time in office.

They don't care to hear that. As long as he's popular with Republicans (especially Republicans like me), they will dislike the guy. He'll make a great Senator if he wins.

Forget Republicans—in his district, he's popular with everyone.


It's a pretty brutal ad.  Whether or not it moves voters, I don't know... but if that's a Hail Mary, it's a darn good one.
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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2008, 12:45:05 AM »

I don't believe Lautenberg will lose at this point. He has, IIRC, equal union support and the more powerful northern county lines. I will be voting for him, and I will also get all of my family and friends to, also. I don't have a problem with Andrews with his history on Iraq, more than I do with his keeping his word, being owned by Norcross, and tendancy to change views in which ever way the wind blows. Mostly I will be voting for Lautenberg because he has shown consistency and there's no reason for change.
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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2008, 12:58:04 AM »

Mostly I will be voting for Lautenberg because he has shown consistency

Frank Lautenberg in 2003:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QD704_gOb3Y
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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2008, 01:00:40 AM »

Mostly I will be voting for Lautenberg because he has shown consistency


Frank Lautenberg's infamous "consistency" on age:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0mccyZIGlk&NR=1
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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2008, 01:49:28 AM »


It's even more amusing when you consider that Lautenberg opposed the Gulf War in 1991, but eventually came around to supporting our current clusterf**k when it was politically expedient to do so.  Whoops!
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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2008, 08:20:30 AM »

On the bright side for Rob Andrews supporters, he's assuredly going back to Congress this January.
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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2008, 02:23:20 PM »

On the bright side for Rob Andrews supporters, he's assuredly going back to Congress this January.

Never before did I think the South Jersey Democratic-Machine-of-Evil would come in handy!
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« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2008, 02:25:43 PM »


It's even more amusing when you consider that Lautenberg opposed the Gulf War in 1991, but eventually came around to supporting our current clusterf**k when it was politically expedient to do so.  Whoops!
Lautenberg has consistently voted, earlier than most senators, for a withdrawal. Besides, I don't believe he actually did support the war, even though that doesn't really help my argument. Basically, his voting record has been consistent and I can give a crap about any political campaign decisions.  Who thinks he would have actually voted for the war?
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« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2008, 04:29:25 PM »

Besides, I don't believe he actually did support the war, even though that doesn't really help my argument.  ...Who thinks he would have actually voted for the war?

So...he's a liar?
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« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2008, 07:29:30 PM »

Besides, I don't believe he actually did support the war, even though that doesn't really help my argument.  ...Who thinks he would have actually voted for the war?

So...he's a liar?
If you want to put it that way.
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« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2008, 08:12:30 PM »

The more I think about it, I know nothing about Bob Andrews.  But the fact that he is not Frank Lautenberg and not from Northern New Jersey makes him awesome
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