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« on: April 27, 2008, 12:26:42 AM »
« edited: June 03, 2008, 05:06:13 PM by Senator EarlAW »

This will be the official thread for the proposed presidential primary for any left leaning member of the forum.

Once again, unless there is significant opposition, I will be chairing this event, and organizing it. If any one wants to help out, please feel free to do so. There was some controversy last time, and so I would like to remind anyone who plans to actively participate, that what I say is not the law, and if you have any opposition please speak up, and I will change things if I feel that it's not a bad idea. Things will be run the same as last time, unless change is desired.  I do remind those that you can only propose changes before the beginning of the primary, for consistency reasons.

Secondly, I would like to announce the list of people who will be invited to participate. If you are not on the list and would like to participate, please indicate your desire to be on the list. Please do not be offended that I have left you out, I may have made a mistake. People who voted in the last primary have been included, as well as anyone else who joined the forum since who I thought would fit in. Atlasians have until May 17th to declare their desire to be a registered voter for the primaries.

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Northeast

Rockefeller Republican
Polnut
EarlAW
MAS117
Lief
Smash255
Mr. Moderate
Old Europe
Hashemite 
Eraserhead 
Fingolfin 
Tender Branson
Dr. Cynic
Ernest

Southeast
Tcash101
Bacon King
Matchu
cookies and milk

Mideast
HappyWarrior
Al
opebo
Tik
Sensei
Warner for Senate '08 
meekermariner
Boris

Pacific
Jesus
Alcon
Ebowed
CultureKing
Xahar 
Friz
evilmexicandictator
Arnold Layne

Midwest
Speed of Sound
Jas
Lewis Trondheim
BRTD
ilikeverin

Schedule of events.

The first stage is the candidacy. Any one who wishes to run for President in the primary must let us know in this thread. Anyone Atlasian citizen may do so, whether or not he or she can vote in the primary. (e.g. President Wixted may choose to run in the primary). This stage will last until May 19th. Persons wishing to run in the primaries must notify their intentions to do so in this thread by midnight on May 19th.

Declared candidates:

* Mr. Moderate
* Speed of Sound
* Ernest
* Al
* Ben Constine

The next stage are the primaries. There will be one primary for each region. These five primaries will be held over three weekends.

Midwest - May 23rd-25th
Pacific & Northeast - May 30th-June 1 - "Super Weekend"
Mideast & Southeast  - June 6th-8th


Each region will be worth a number of delegates depending on how many eligible primary voters reside in each region (as of May 17). The amount of delegates will be half that of primary voters, rounded up in the case of half a person. Delegates will be awarded proportionally in each region, and a candidate will be required to win at least two votes in a region to win a delegate. (If no candidate gets 2, then one will be sufficient) In the case of an extra delegate not being rewarded due to a tie or some other mathematical problem, an extra delegate will awarded to the candidate with the highest national popular vote (if there is a tie, the candidate who is tied with the most PV). A candidate cannot win more delegates than he or she received votes in a region.

Current delegates:
Pacific: 4
Mideast: 4
Midwest: 3
Northeast: 7
Southeast: 2

Beginning on June 10th, a national convention will be held at a location to be determined. Candidates will have to find delegates to vote in the convention. Delegates can be any Atlas citizen regardless of whether they voted in the primary. They do have to be from one of the regions that a candidate won delegates.  They do however have to vote for a candidate that won delegates. A candidate must win 50% of voting delegates to win. If this doesn't happen in the first round, then a second round will occur where the candidate who had the least voting delegates is knocked off, and they will be free to choose from whomever is leftover. After the candidate is won, he/she will be expected to pick a running mate at the convention.
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2008, 02:53:18 AM »

The whole delegates part seems unnecessary and complicated...
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 06:21:06 AM »

I must insist that a more orderly process of handling candidate withdrawals must be found than was used last time.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 10:59:01 AM »

I must insist that a more orderly process of handling candidate withdrawals must be found than was used last time.

Any ideas?

The whole delegates part seems unnecessary and complicated...

That's the whole fun!
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 11:27:50 AM »

I must insist that a more orderly process of handling candidate withdrawals must be found than was used last time.

Any ideas?

The easiest would be to unpledge delegates on the first round. The withdrawing candidate would still have to pick his delegates, though - if he's too lazy or frustrated to do even that, tough luck, and deservedly so for voting for someone who sucks that badly.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2008, 04:59:59 PM »

I would like to be a voter in the progressive primary.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2008, 05:05:42 PM »
« Edited: April 28, 2008, 05:11:31 PM by Senator-elect EarlAW »

I would like to be a voter in the progressive primary.

I oppose this, however if no one else does, you will be allowed to vote.  To be barred from voting, one needs 5 signatures,

x - EarlAW

I must insist that a more orderly process of handling candidate withdrawals must be found than was used last time.

Any ideas?

The easiest would be to unpledge delegates on the first round. The withdrawing candidate would still have to pick his delegates, though - if he's too lazy or frustrated to do even that, tough luck, and deservedly so for voting for someone who sucks that badly.

Alright, the first round can be unpledged.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 05:15:51 PM »

x Judge Sensei
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2008, 05:31:21 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 05:40:39 PM »

Will "Uncommited" be an option on the ballot?
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2008, 06:00:15 PM »

I would like to be a voter in the progressive primary.

I oppose this, however if no one else does, you will be allowed to vote.  To be barred from voting, one needs 5 signatures,

x - EarlAW

X Lt. Governor Warner for Senate '08
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2008, 06:16:02 PM »

I would like to be a voter in the progressive primary.

I oppose this, however if no one else does, you will be allowed to vote.  To be barred from voting, one needs 5 signatures,

x - EarlAW

X Lt. Governor Warner for Senate '08

X Lt. Gov. Speed of Sound
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 06:23:39 PM »

I would like to be a voter in the progressive primary.

I oppose this, however if no one else does, you will be allowed to vote.  To be barred from voting, one needs 5 signatures,

x - EarlAW

X Lt. Governor Warner for Senate '08

X Lt. Gov. Speed of Sound

X Rockefeller Republican
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 06:25:11 PM »

I would like to be a voter in the progressive primary.

I oppose this, however if no one else does, you will be allowed to vote.  To be barred from voting, one needs 5 signatures,

x - EarlAW

X Lt. Governor Warner for Senate '08

X Lt. Gov. Speed of Sound

X Rockefeller Republican

X Hashemite
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 06:26:52 PM »

You can stop signing now; that's 7.
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2008, 06:31:26 PM »

Will "Uncommited" be an option on the ballot?

Not unless there's demand for it.
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2008, 06:36:05 PM »


There was last time, no?
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2008, 07:36:07 PM »

God damn, youre anal. Smiley

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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2008, 07:39:59 PM »


No, Lewis voted for it, but it didn't get counted in the delegate tally.
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2008, 07:59:31 PM »

Earl, though you probably don't remember this, I do:

Just a note to voters, uncommitted is not an option.

Why not? We can have delegates free to vote for anyone in the first round.

It's too late to change for this round, but next primary I can look into it.
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2008, 08:22:40 PM »

Earl, though you probably don't remember this, I do:

Just a note to voters, uncommitted is not an option.

Why not? We can have delegates free to vote for anyone in the first round.

It's too late to change for this round, but next primary I can look into it.

Xahar, would you like that option available?
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2008, 08:33:35 PM »


Amazing! Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2008, 08:39:30 PM »

Earl, though you probably don't remember this, I do:

Just a note to voters, uncommitted is not an option.

Why not? We can have delegates free to vote for anyone in the first round.

It's too late to change for this round, but next primary I can look into it.

Xahar, would you like that option available?

It'd certainly be nice to have.
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2008, 08:41:38 PM »

Earl, though you probably don't remember this, I do:

Just a note to voters, uncommitted is not an option.

Why not? We can have delegates free to vote for anyone in the first round.

It's too late to change for this round, but next primary I can look into it.


Xahar, would you like that option available?

It'd certainly be nice to have.
I second this.
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2008, 09:51:28 AM »

It would be nice, but it's not necessary. I see the problem with picking the uncommited delegates.
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