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« on: April 08, 2008, 01:00:33 PM »

A work of art by one of Vienna's most celebrated artists has been taken down after offending members of the Catholic community.

The painting is part of a large collection of works that depict Jesus and his disciples engaging in homosexual acts.

To celebrate the 80th birthday of artist Alfred Hrdlicka, the gallery attached to St. Stephen's Catholic Cathedral decided to put on a retrospective of the artists work.

There was surprise that the work received the endorsement from Cardinal Archbishop of Vienna, Christoph Schonborn, who is known for his Orthodox views.

Entitled, Religion, Flesh, Power, the exhibition includes a number of works that depict Christ in a sexual context.

One piece that caused particular offence was a sculpture of Christ on a crucifix having his genitals fondled by a Roman soldier.

It was, however, Mr Hrdlicka's portrayal of The Last Supper that caused the biggest outcry of anger from Catholics.

The paintings, loosely based on the original by Leonardo Da Vinci, depicts the 12 apostles engaging in a homosexual orgy.

The exhibition has prompted protests from Catholics worldwide, in particular America where a number of websites and bloggers have voiced their disgust.

The American Society for the defence of Tradition, Family and Property (TFP), described the exhibition as, "an unimaginable blasphemy."

"I honestly feel that creating a more offensive blasphemy would take a lot of imagination," said TFP spokesman Michael Whitcraft.

"I can't think of how it could be worse."

The Society hit the headlines in America two years ago when they organised a 2000 strong protest against the film, The Da Vinci Code, claiming that the film was deeply offensive to Christians.

The museum's curator, Bernhard Boehler, replied to the complaints saying, "I don't see any blasphemy here. People can imagine what they want to."

Boehler told Reuter's news service, "We look for art on biblical themes, but we can't always choose how the artist will interpret them."

The verbal complaints from Catholics around the world were compared by Boehler and Hrdlicka to the riots, bombings and killings that followed the publication of the Danish newspaper cartoons of Mohammed.

US columnist Rod Dreher wrote on his popular conservative blog:

"I'm glad that we don't have to worry about Catholic mobs worldwide burning down Austrian embassies and attacking screenings of The Sound of Music to protest this blasphemy.

"But quietism from church authorities in the face of something like this - and not only quietism, but tacit endorsement, given the venue! - sends a powerful message of how deep the rot has gone."

The most offensive pieces have been taken down due to the massive international interest.

However, a spokesman for the cardinal refused to condemn the works:

"It is an act of respect towards those believers who feel this portrayal offended and provoked them in their deepest religious sensitivity."

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7334.html
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 01:12:02 PM »

Ummm... wow.  Wow... so much for my prediction (and support) of Schonborn being the next Pope.

He is a very learned man, how could he have been asleep at the switch that badly.

As for the curators complaints, protesting this is nothing like the Danish Cartoons, because this exhibition is attached to the Cathedral and Schonborn is a Cardinal of the Holy Roman Church.  This isn't some random news paper publication, and Schonborn should know better.  That's the stupidest argument I have ever heard.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 01:14:51 PM »

A movie with the pictures from a catholic site:

http://www.gloria.tv/?video=yhy4ltzhyg58w8jahiew
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 01:20:01 PM »


Schonborn has defiled his station.  The Pope should force his resignation.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 01:53:23 PM »

Horribly tasteless.

However I don't wish any action to be taken against anyone. It's freedom of expression. When people say 'anger of Catholics' what is really meant here is 'anger of a fringe group' who whip a local 'artistic' display into something into national and international proportions for their own PR. What on earth do American Catholic groups have to worry about in an exhibition in Vienna? Whats the point in them distributing the 'naughty' images to a wide audience in quiet outrage other than to promote themselves?

I think the Cardinal did the correct and restrained thing to do.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 02:22:48 PM »

Jesus was without a doubt a homosexual.  Fact.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 02:54:25 PM »

Horribly tasteless.

However I don't wish any action to be taken against anyone. It's freedom of expression. When people say 'anger of Catholics' what is really meant here is 'anger of a fringe group' who whip a local 'artistic' display into something into national and international proportions for their own PR. What on earth do American Catholic groups have to worry about in an exhibition in Vienna? Whats the point in them distributing the 'naughty' images to a wide audience in quiet outrage other than to promote themselves?

I think the Cardinal did the correct and restrained thing to do.

This isn't an argument about freedom of expression.  The art exhibit is not a public institution.  This is an argument about whether a Catholic Cardinal should have placed a stamp of approval on this work.  The image of the Church has taken enough of a hit without things like this going on.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2008, 03:25:19 PM »

Horribly tasteless.

However I don't wish any action to be taken against anyone. It's freedom of expression. When people say 'anger of Catholics' what is really meant here is 'anger of a fringe group' who whip a local 'artistic' display into something into national and international proportions for their own PR. What on earth do American Catholic groups have to worry about in an exhibition in Vienna? Whats the point in them distributing the 'naughty' images to a wide audience in quiet outrage other than to promote themselves?

I think the Cardinal did the correct and restrained thing to do.

This isn't an argument about freedom of expression.  The art exhibit is not a public institution.  This is an argument about whether a Catholic Cardinal should have placed a stamp of approval on this work.  The image of the Church has taken enough of a hit without things like this going on.

I've got to agree.  I don't have a problem with the work being created or displayed, but not in a Church.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2008, 04:38:13 PM »

Speaking to someone who's been in Vienna they said they think that the gallery isn't attached to the church but is in a seperate building across the road. Can anyone verify that?
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2008, 04:40:54 PM »

*tries to stifle his giggling*
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2008, 11:21:29 PM »

Speaking to someone who's been in Vienna they said they think that the gallery isn't attached to the church but is in a seperate building across the road. Can anyone verify that?

Regardless, its still in conjuncture with the Archdiocese.
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