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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1225 on: November 01, 2009, 12:16:21 PM »
« edited: November 01, 2009, 12:28:34 PM by Northeast Representative Antonio V »

Here is it. Wink


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Turnout (well, not very useful...)

The Northeast getting down to the 50's is due to Hamilton's vote. Tongue


And the final results map Cheesy :

Lief
Pit

Table by region :
LiefPitTotal
Northeast171330
Southeast7815
Mideast101424
Midwest11718
Pacific12315
Total5745102
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« Reply #1226 on: November 01, 2009, 12:59:41 PM »

Great maps Antonio!

Interesting that each candidate had one strong region, while the NE didn't have a clear favorite.
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« Reply #1227 on: November 01, 2009, 01:31:37 PM »

The closeness of the Southeast in the final round is pretty astounding.
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« Reply #1228 on: November 01, 2009, 01:39:54 PM »

The closeness of the Southeast in the final round is pretty astounding.

PiT did better in the Mideast than in the Southeast.  Very surprising.
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« Reply #1229 on: November 01, 2009, 02:08:56 PM »

The closeness of the Southeast in the final round is pretty astounding.

PiT did better in the Mideast than in the Southeast.  Very surprising.

The second time that occured I think. Last time it was all the DAer's supporting him. This time its because of Hamilton moving all those people from the Pacific to the ME.
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« Reply #1230 on: November 01, 2009, 02:41:37 PM »

Great maps Antonio!

Interesting that each candidate had one strong region, while the NE didn't have a clear favorite.
There was a candidate too few. Smiley

Now what we want here is the same thing for the final round, both as Lief vs PiT and as whatever the final round in that region/state would have turned out to be. Cheesy
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« Reply #1231 on: November 01, 2009, 03:29:28 PM »

Seems like the Pacific has definitely turned into a dead region, whereas SE is incredibly combetitive (Pit lost 27 points here !).

As for other trends, NE is very worrying. Whereas it was solidly JCP 4 months ago, it looks now perfectly average. The JCP needs to do something strong here or this will cause many difficulties in the future...
As for MW, no great changes, except that Al comes close to be ahead here... Loony guys ! Tongue
ME is getting colonized by RPPers, seems...
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« Reply #1232 on: November 02, 2009, 03:33:47 PM »

The closeness of the Southeast in the final round is pretty astounding.

PiT did better in the Mideast than in the Southeast.  Very surprising.
This time its because of Hamilton moving all those people from the Pacific to the ME.

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« Reply #1233 on: November 14, 2009, 07:20:16 AM »
« Edited: November 14, 2009, 07:38:25 AM by Jas »

Decided to track the Amendment voting...

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Mideast (Voting ends: 16th)
Grin14(benconstine, Purple State, tmthforu, Frodo, Franzl, Einzige, filliatre, badger, HappyWarrior, Al, opebo, Swedish Cheese, Giovanni)
Angry1(Inks)
Undecided1(Mint)


Midwest (Voting ends: 18th)
Grin5(Hans-im-Glück, ilikeverin, Lewis Trondheim, Jas, NiK)
Angry0
Undecided1(Vepres)


Northeast (Voting ends: 16th)
Grin6(Antonio V, Hashemite, Barnes, sbane, Dr. Cynic, Mr. Moderate)
Angry9(Alexander Hamilton, RowanBrandon, downwithdaleft, cinyc, FallenMorgan, Winston Disraeli, GM3, Libertas, Lahbas)
Undecided0


Pacific (Voting ends: 16th)
Grin3(meekermariner, Sturm1, Marokai Blue, MaxQue)
Angry2(bgwah, Ebowed)
Undecided0


Southeast (Voting ends: 16th)
Grin2(Bacon King, Xahar)
Angry6(Daniel Adams, JBrase, Brandon H, PiT, North Carolina Yankee, East Coast Republican2)
Undecided0


Therefore, at present, the amendment is failing.
Fewest extra votes necessary to pass: 4 in the Northeast.


Overall Tally
Grin 30 (60%)
Angry 18 (36%)
Undecided 2   (4%)


Party Breakdown
Turnout ¦% in favour
LNF58.3%100%
DA44.4%100%
JCP17.9%80%
PCP23.1%25%
ARP50%16.7%


Turnout Table
Mideast16/3743.2%
Southeast8/2433.3%
Northeast15/5129.4%
Atlasia50/17229.1%
Midwest6/2821.4%
Pacific5/3215.6%

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1 Sturm is not a registered voter.
2 East Coast Republican has been banned from voting by Court Order. However, he cast this vote before the Order was issued, so not sure on it's validity. It is provisionally included in this count.
3 Turnout is primarily derived on the latest DoFA data on regional and party numbers.
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« Reply #1234 on: November 14, 2009, 08:55:56 AM »

Holy sh**t, the unholy alliance of Hamilton's and DWTL's cliques are going to make fail an Amendment supported by 60% of Atlasians...
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« Reply #1235 on: November 14, 2009, 09:05:54 AM »

lol JCP
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« Reply #1236 on: November 14, 2009, 09:22:11 AM »

Yay, down with the Amendment!
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« Reply #1237 on: November 14, 2009, 09:53:32 AM »


Idiot. You are a puppet and don't even care about.
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« Reply #1238 on: November 14, 2009, 09:57:48 AM »
« Edited: November 14, 2009, 10:04:52 AM by Winston Disraeli for NE Assemblyman! »


Shut up. I already have three laws ready in case I win, all of which will benefit our region. So don't call me puppet you socialist moron.
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« Reply #1239 on: November 14, 2009, 11:42:59 AM »

Of course, the Mideast has the highest turnout thus far.
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« Reply #1240 on: November 14, 2009, 02:45:09 PM »


Yea, bgwah is opposed to the amendment and thus has no reason to activate the JCP hordes
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« Reply #1241 on: November 14, 2009, 03:15:31 PM »

Holy sh**t, the unholy alliance of Hamilton's and DWTL's cliques are going to make fail an Amendment supported by 60% of Atlasians...

At the very least, it's a moral victory, considering that this is the exact problem we were trying to fix.
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« Reply #1242 on: November 14, 2009, 03:17:05 PM »

Holy sh**t, the unholy alliance of Hamilton's and DWTL's cliques are going to make fail an Amendment supported by 60% of Atlasians...

At the very least, it's a moral victory, considering that this is the exact problem we were trying to fix.

Well, we're a genuine party. It's not our fault we were unrepresented before.
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« Reply #1243 on: November 14, 2009, 04:09:19 PM »

Holy sh**t, the unholy alliance of Hamilton's and DWTL's cliques are going to make fail an Amendment supported by 60% of Atlasians...

At the very least, it's a moral victory, considering that this is the exact problem we were trying to fix.

Well, we're a genuine party. It's not our fault we were unrepresented before.

Do you even understand the point of the Amendment? It seems like alot of you are voting against it reflexively without even understanding why we were trying to fix the problem in the first place.

Typical behavior of the Atlasian right, when you think about it. Just naysay, don't debate.
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« Reply #1244 on: November 14, 2009, 04:18:02 PM »

Do you even understand the point of the Amendment? It seems like alot of you are voting against it reflexively without even understanding why we were trying to fix the problem in the first place.

Typical behavior of the Atlasian right, when you think about it. Just naysay, don't debate.

I perfectly understand the purpose of the Amendment - to weaken regional power by diluting the regions' ability to block amendments that potentially harm them.  Under the bill as proposed, 3 regions with similar ideology could gang up to destroy the other 1 or 2.  And I strongly oppose it.  It should not be easy to amend the Constitution.

Typical behavior of the Atlasian left - watering down constitutional protections on regional and minority rights to increase their control over Atlasia.
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« Reply #1245 on: November 14, 2009, 04:20:47 PM »

Do you even understand the point of the Amendment? It seems like alot of you are voting against it reflexively without even understanding why we were trying to fix the problem in the first place.

Typical behavior of the Atlasian right, when you think about it. Just naysay, don't debate.

I perfectly understand the purpose of the Amendment - to weaken regional power by diluting the regions' ability to block amendments that potentially harm them.  Under the bill as proposed, 3 regions with similar ideology could gang up to destroy the other 1 or 2.  And I strongly oppose it.  It should not be easy to amend the Constitution.

Typical behavior of the Atlasian left - watering down constitutional protections on regional and minority rights to increase their control over Atlasia.

Regions are artificial barriers, they serve no purpose when it comes to ratification. If the solid majority of people support something, it should be able to pass, but certain people are able to manipulate the vote simply by where they live. There's no rationale for this behavior staying, absolutely none.

And for your information, this was even the compromise. If we can't even get a compromise to pass, this game is doomed.
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« Reply #1246 on: November 14, 2009, 04:28:37 PM »

Regions are artificial barriers, they serve no purpose when it comes to ratification. If the solid majority of people support something, it should be able to pass, but certain people are able to manipulate the vote simply by where they live. There's no rationale for this behavior staying, absolutely none.

And for your information, this was even the compromise. If we can't even get a compromise to pass, this game is doomed.

The Atlasian Left seems to forget that Atlasia is supposed to roughly simulate a federal constitutional republic.  Regions are no more "artificial barriers" in a game that's supposed to simulate a constitutional federal republic than the states are in the US.  In the US, the states must ratify any proposed constitutional amendment.  Not every region has a legislature (and certainly didn't at the time of the Second Atlasian Constitution), so the current process approximates that mechanism.

I know that this was a compromise to an even worse amendment that would have ignored the regions entirely in the amendment process.  I spoke out to my regional Senator, urging him to vote against that horrible piece of legislation.  He didn't - and that may become an issue should he run for reelection.
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« Reply #1247 on: November 14, 2009, 04:30:38 PM »

This amendment shows a few things:

1.) Hamilton is a power hungry idiot.  His party is once again voting the same way as the RPP.  They are nothing but a power trip and confused people who are following Hamilton's garbage that the RPP isn't conservative or regionally focused

2.) Regional rights are alive and well

3.) Bgwah is a true Atlasian hero
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« Reply #1248 on: November 14, 2009, 04:31:54 PM »

We are not bound to any one system of government, despite how often people say we're modified after the United States. We only are insofar as we live on the same landmass, but plenty is different and we're free to change things as we please.

The point is, the current ratification scheme is grossly anti-democratic. There is no excuse for an amendment with 60%+ support that fails just because of a few strategically targeted votes. Regions do nothing but warp representation and ratification.
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« Reply #1249 on: November 14, 2009, 04:32:28 PM »

No, Marokai. The regions should not have any more of their power undermined.
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