The Examiner: Election Tracker

[Franzl]

I do wonder, though, especially because you supposedly agree that PPT is a non-partisan office, why does your likely loss as PPT have anything to do with your party's agenda?

[AndrewTX]

With all honesty, I am happy to hear that you will run for re-election. The Senate still needs you.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Letter to the Editor

I would urge any Senators who have not voted yet to read what DWDL has written about MasterJedi since the latter decided not to vote for the former. Ignore partisan ties and ideological positions, even ignore anything you might have pledged behind closed doors. Putting someone like this into a position of authority is dangerous and if you do it, you will come to regret it.

A.C.Sibboleth
No. 28, IngSoc Tower
War
West Virginia

[DownWithTheLeft]

I do wonder, though, especially because you supposedly agree that PPT is a non-partisan office, why does your likely loss as PPT have anything to do with your party's agenda?

I expect, and frankly plan on, Happy being ineffective and incompetent or abuse the office.  He certainly can slow down bills I would have made sure were voted on promptly.  If you do not believe PPTs can abuse power, go back to Al last senate or Ebowed stalling Naso's VP nomination.

Frankly, the senate made a bad mistake last time that killed the senate activity, and they have made the same mistake again.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Letter to the Editor

I would urge any Senators who have not voted yet to read what DWDL has written about MasterJedi since the latter decided not to vote for the former. Ignore partisan ties and ideological positions, even ignore anything you might have pledged behind closed doors. Putting someone like this into a position of authority is dangerous and if you do it, you will come to regret it.

A.C.Sibboleth
No. 28, IngSoc Tower
War
West Virginia

I still have not once, not once, and frankly you have numerous times, acted without tact during senate proceedings.  I am the party leader, therefore, I am the party pit bull I have to be there out on the front lines working to help my party.  I believe I have done a great job at that, I have four senators and one senator that likes to associate himself with my party.  We hold three governships and were elected VP.  If I am not successful at knowing how to succeed in this game, I'd like you to point me in the direction of someone who is. 

I just am not going to sit back and bend over when someone who helps stabs me in the back.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Letter to the Editor

I would urge any Senators who have not voted yet to read what DWDL has written about MasterJedi since the latter decided not to vote for the former. Ignore partisan ties and ideological positions, even ignore anything you might have pledged behind closed doors. Putting someone like this into a position of authority is dangerous and if you do it, you will come to regret it.

A.C.Sibboleth
No. 28, IngSoc Tower
War
West Virginia

I still have not once, not once, and frankly you have numerous times, acted without tact during senate proceedings.  I am the party leader, therefore, I am the party pit bull I have to be there out on the front lines working to help my party.  I believe I have done a great job at that, I have four senators and one senator that likes to associate himself with my party.  We hold three governships and were elected VP.  If I am not successful at knowing how to succeed in this game, I'd like you to point me in the direction of someone who is. 

I just am not going to sit back and bend over when someone who helps stabs me in the back.

Once again, you seem to have difficulty reading. My letter is deals only with the way you have acted towards MasterJedi since he dropped his support for you. Whether or not you've been a "success" in this game is beside the point (as, actually, is the issue of Senate decorum; tha' be Jas's complaint, nay mine).

Though, actually, I'd like to add that the office of PPT (as badly designed as it is) is not supposed to be a partisan position.

[Јas]

I still have not once, not once, and frankly you have numerous times, acted without tact during senate proceedings. 

So when,during Senate business, you called HappyWarrior a "lousy Senator" or when you said he had "idiotic" ideas,or when you called Al a "fascist" or when you said he was the "most childish/annoying Senator" since me - were you (a) being tactful or (b) not being tactful and so actually lying in the above quote?

(Further examples of 'tactful' behaviour available on request.)

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Shades of Yes Minister; "unique and refreshing brand of tact".

[Јas]

Shades of Yes Minister; "unique and refreshing brand of tact".

[bgwah]

... if Duke is elected president...

lol

[DownWithTheLeft]

I still have not once, not once, and frankly you have numerous times, acted without tact during senate proceedings. 

So when,during Senate business, you called HappyWarrior a "lousy Senator" or when you said he had "idiotic" ideas,or when you called Al a "fascist" or when you said he was the "most childish/annoying Senator" since me - were you (a) being tactful or (b) not being tactful and so actually lying in the above quote?

(Further examples of 'tactful' behaviour available on request.)

None of those (except for calling Happy's idea, not Happy idiotic) came during an actual senate debate

[DownWithTheLeft]

... if Duke is elected president...

lol

You can't be president forever

[Јas]

I still have not once, not once, and frankly you have numerous times, acted without tact during senate proceedings. 

So when,during Senate business, you called HappyWarrior a "lousy Senator" or when you said he had "idiotic" ideas,or when you called Al a "fascist" or when you said he was the "most childish/annoying Senator" since me - were you (a) being tactful or (b) not being tactful and so actually lying in the above quote?

(Further examples of 'tactful' behaviour available on request.)

None of those (except for calling Happy's idea, not Happy idiotic) came during an actual senate debate

All of the above are from Senate proceedings (per your above quote).

[DownWithTheLeft]

I still have not once, not once, and frankly you have numerous times, acted without tact during senate proceedings. 

So when,during Senate business, you called HappyWarrior a "lousy Senator" or when you said he had "idiotic" ideas,or when you called Al a "fascist" or when you said he was the "most childish/annoying Senator" since me - were you (a) being tactful or (b) not being tactful and so actually lying in the above quote?

(Further examples of 'tactful' behaviour available on request.)

None of those (except for calling Happy's idea, not Happy idiotic) came during an actual senate debate

All of the above are from Senate proceedings (per your above quote).

No they are not.  Senate proceedings mean that actual senate business was being conducted, not post vote or non-legislation threads.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

You called me a fascist during a vote.

[DownWithTheLeft]

You called me a fascist during a vote.

The vote was already over.  And frankly, your actions was facist so I was not out of line to say that at any time.

[Verily]

You called me a fascist during a vote.

The vote was already over.  And frankly, your actions was facist so I was not out of line to say that at any time.

The vote was not over; if you follow the link, you will see that Bacon King voted after your comment. In any case, it should be blatantly obvious that, regardless of the truth of such an accusation, it is not an appropriate one to be making on the Senate floor.

[HappyWarrior]

I do wonder, though, especially because you supposedly agree that PPT is a non-partisan office, why does your likely loss as PPT have anything to do with your party's agenda?

I expect, and frankly plan on, Happy being ineffective and incompetent or abuse the office.  He certainly can slow down bills I would have made sure were voted on promptly.  If you do not believe PPTs can abuse power, go back to Al last senate or Ebowed stalling Naso's VP nomination.

Frankly, the senate made a bad mistake last time that killed the senate activity, and they have made the same mistake again.

When have I ever given any indication of me being any of these things?  I have always been kind and cordial with fellow senators.  I have never missed a vote.  I have never shown any abuse of office nor have I been incompetent at anything.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Kind and cordial /= good PPT

You have not taken an active role in the senate and/or proven to be trustworthy

[HappyWarrior]

Kind and cordial /= good PPT

You have not taken an active role in the senate and/or proven to be trustworthy

I have taken no less active role than you actually and I have not proven untrustworthy in anybody elses opinion except yours, at least no one else has mentioned it to me.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Kind and cordial /= good PPT

You have not taken an active role in the senate and/or proven to be trustworthy

I have taken no less active role than you actually and I have not proven trustworthy in anybody elses opinion except yours, at least no one else has mentioned it to me.

Well, at least you admit it.  And you certainly have taken a much less active role, you have passed less bills, participated in less debate, and have been around for a lot shorter period of time.  I know the rules of the senate and the people can count on me to be there.

Can you think of a reason I would make a bad PPT?  BTW, the fact that I don't bend over for people is not a reason that a person is a bad PPT

[HappyWarrior]

Kind and cordial /= good PPT

You have not taken an active role in the senate and/or proven to be trustworthy

I have taken no less active role than you actually and I have not proven trustworthy in anybody elses opinion except yours, at least no one else has mentioned it to me.

Well, at least you admit it.  And you certainly have taken a much less active role, you have passed less bills, participated in less debate, and have been around for a lot shorter period of time.  I know the rules of the senate and the people can count on me to be there.

Can you think of a reason I would make a bad PPT?  BTW, the fact that I don't bend over for people is not a reason that a person is a bad PPT

Excuse me, I meant untrustworthy.  The reason is simply that you are too explosive and partisan.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Excuse me, I meant untrustworthy.  The reason is simply that you are too explosive and partisan.

Are you confused about the function of the PPT?  The job isn't about who can win a gold star for kindness, its about effectively running the senate.  What makes me unfit to run the senate?  Were you right to support Al over me last time?

[HappyWarrior]

Excuse me, I meant untrustworthy.  The reason is simply that you are too explosive and partisan.

Are you confused about the function of the PPT?  The job isn't about who can win a gold star for kindness, its about effectively running the senate.  What makes me unfit to run the senate?  Were you right to support Al over me last time?

I feel it was right.  Al may have been ineffective but thats better than being a partisan such as yourself.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Excuse me, I meant untrustworthy.  The reason is simply that you are too explosive and partisan.

Are you confused about the function of the PPT?  The job isn't about who can win a gold star for kindness, its about effectively running the senate.  What makes me unfit to run the senate?  Were you right to support Al over me last time?

I feel it was right.  Al may have been ineffective but thats better than being a partisan such as yourself.

So having no senate activity at all is better than having an active PPT who you happen to think is too partisan? Gotcha, that makes all the sense in the world