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« on: February 17, 2008, 10:05:43 PM »

In 2000

Republicans nominate Senator John McCain of Arizona for President, after he defeats Governor George W Bush of Texas in the primaries.  McCain picks Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating for Vice President.

Democrats nominate Vice President Al Gore of Tennessee for President and he picks Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut for Vice President.

What happens in this election?

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2008, 10:15:40 PM »



303-235 McCain wins.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2008, 10:30:31 PM »

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McCain turns out to be a failed candidate.

Al Gore: 350
John McCain: 183
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2008, 10:32:16 PM »



McCain turns out to be a failed candidate.

Al Gore: 350
John McCain: 183

Fixed.
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2008, 10:34:55 PM »


I never understand why every scenario that includes a moderate (or "moderate" in McCain's case) Republican, there is always at least one person that gives one of Maine's congressional districts to said "moderate" Republican. The only reason the state was as close as it was in 2000 (within 6%) is because Nader managed to snag 5% of the vote. In 2004, a year with no strong Nader campaign, Bush actually improved his percentage...but lost by nine points. No section of Maine would have gone GOP in 2000, nor will a section of it go GOP in 2008 or the foreseeable future  (of course barring a Democratic candidate such as Walter Mondale).
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 09:17:44 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 12:18:09 AM »
« Edited: February 19, 2008, 12:59:44 AM by Lt. Governor Rockefeller Republican »


I don't think that McCain would have done that badly against Al Gore.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2008, 10:39:58 AM »

Haha. For a moment there I thought you meant the other Keating... haha...
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2008, 11:36:12 AM »

Haha. For a moment there I thought you meant the other Keating... haha...

What other Keating? Kenneth Keating?
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 12:19:30 PM »



McCain wins 298-240
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2008, 01:18:21 PM »

Haha. For a moment there I thought you meant the other Keating... haha...

What other Keating? Kenneth Keating?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Keating
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2008, 05:46:51 PM »

Just a quick thought: I posted a map on this thread that had Gore absolutely pound McCain, yet gporter has not called me a hack, even though in all my other posts on this topic McCain wins.  I think he only calls me a hack when he does not agree with my results.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2008, 09:41:59 PM »

Just a quick thought: I posted a map on this thread that had Gore absolutely pound McCain, yet gporter has not called me a hack, even though in all my other posts on this topic McCain wins.  I think he only calls me a hack when he does not agree with my results.

Your map had the exact same results as mine did for this thread. So, I think that you did not know what to put in and that you were just copying me.

Fine, here is a real map:

McCain wins 287-251.
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2008, 12:38:10 AM »

Gore does better in the South (excluding Florida) and Midwest, while worse in the West and Northeast.  my guess would be that all of OR, TN, WV, OH, ME-02, and NM switch.  possibly PA as well.  would have been close.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2008, 01:29:43 AM »


I never understand why every scenario that includes a moderate (or "moderate" in McCain's case) Republican, there is always at least one person that gives one of Maine's congressional districts to said "moderate" Republican. The only reason the state was as close as it was in 2000 (within 6%) is because Nader managed to snag 5% of the vote. In 2004, a year with no strong Nader campaign, Bush actually improved his percentage...but lost by nine points. No section of Maine would have gone GOP in 2000, nor will a section of it go GOP in 2008 or the foreseeable future  (of course barring a Democratic candidate such as Walter Mondale).

because McCain had alot of appeal to moderates and independents, and there are alot in Maine (Independents that is). In 2000, Maine wasn't considered the blue state it is now, nor was Vermont the staunch Dem stronghold it is now.
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2008, 01:34:23 AM »


this looks good though I would give all of Maine to Gore and Pennsylvania to McCain. I think McCain would have been a very powerful candidate in 2000, he had a much better image than he does now.
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2008, 05:17:51 PM »

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...or Barack Obama.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2008, 05:23:00 PM »

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...or Barack Obama.

Interesting view.  I suppose I should point out that Obama won 59% in the Democratic caucus in Maine, whereas McCain won 21% in the Republican caucus.  Whatever that's worth, it's not exactly overwhelming evidence in favor of McCain defeating Obama in Maine.
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