maine caucus chat!!!

[WalterMitty]

like everyone else ive been assuming obama will receive an easy win here.  the democrat party in the state is quite liberal.

but on further thought...someone who is an expert on maine demographics feel free to correct me...the state has a high number of older people.  it certainly has a relatively high number of working poor folks (by new england standards) 

perhaps clinton could be competitive.

(not a prediction, by the way, even though if hillary loses by 30 points brtd will bump this thread up)

[exopolitician]

I dunno about Maine. Both of them probably have a decent shot at winning the state, and I havnt seen any recent polls coming out of the state either. I wont make a prediction either.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

So far, precedent has shown that:

1-Clinton can't win a caucus without Hispanics.
2-With Hispanics she still only wins by a couple points and might not even take a majority of delegates.

[Lief 🗽]

The question I have is, is Maine more like the parts of NH Obama won, or the parts Clinton won?

[Verily]

I don't think people have been assuming Obama will win. Usually, people seem to be taking the reasonable position, that no one really knows enough about Maine to say (and Maine is pretty unpredictable). A lot of Maine is like the non-suburban/urban areas of New Hampshire, which Obama won, but it also has a higher number of French Canadians, who preferred Clinton.

What may be the deciding factor is who visits the state: Obama is visiting, but Clinton is not.

[exopolitician]

I don't think people have been assuming Obama will win. Usually, people seem to be taking the reasonable position, that no one really knows enough about Maine to say (and Maine is pretty unpredictable). A lot of Maine is like the non-suburban/urban areas of New Hampshire, which Obama won, but it also has a higher number of French Canadians, who preferred Clinton.

What may be the deciding factor is who visits the state: Obama is visiting, but Clinton is not.

When and where is he visiting?

[Flying Dog]

I don't think people have been assuming Obama will win. Usually, people seem to be taking the reasonable position, that no one really knows enough about Maine to say (and Maine is pretty unpredictable). A lot of Maine is like the non-suburban/urban areas of New Hampshire, which Obama won, but it also has a higher number of French Canadians, who preferred Clinton.

What may be the deciding factor is who visits the state: Obama is visiting, but Clinton is not.

When and where is he visiting?

Tomorrow. Bangor, I believe.

[exopolitician]

I don't think people have been assuming Obama will win. Usually, people seem to be taking the reasonable position, that no one really knows enough about Maine to say (and Maine is pretty unpredictable). A lot of Maine is like the non-suburban/urban areas of New Hampshire, which Obama won, but it also has a higher number of French Canadians, who preferred Clinton.

What may be the deciding factor is who visits the state: Obama is visiting, but Clinton is not.

When and where is he visiting?

Tomorrow. Bangor, I believe.

And Clinton plans on skipping the state? Sucks to be her then...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The question I have is, is Maine more like the parts of NH Obama won, or the parts Clinton won?

Obama. Obama won the rural parts and the 2nd congressional district. Clinton won due to her margins in exurban Boston.

[WalterMitty]

do i have this right?  the caucus is on a sunday?

i find that offensive.  i find the whole concept of a caucus offensive actually,

what  happens if a person has a religious service scheduled at the same time as the caucus?

anyone ever think of that?

[Flying Dog]

do i have this right?  the caucus is on a sunday?

i find that offensive.  i find the whole concept of a caucus offensive actually,

what  happens if a person has a religious service scheduled at the same time as the caucus?

anyone ever think of that?

Yes, yes, we know you hate caucuses. But, I agree with you otherwise.

[exopolitician]

do i have this right?  the caucus is on a sunday?

i find that offensive.  i find the whole concept of a caucus offensive actually,

what  happens if a person has a religious service scheduled at the same time as the caucus?

anyone ever think of that?

Church doesnt run all day, and Caucus's dont end till 8 [usually...right?]

Plus arent alot of Caucus locations churches anyways? It fits!

[elcorazon]

some people attend religious services on Saturday, but no one complains about elections on Saturday.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

All elections should be on Sunday or Saturday.

[SPQR]

Every single f*****g state is competitive for Clinton in your opinion...you're sort of becoming a Democrat Naso.Just don't start posting stories about your family,please.
And,by the way,she won't win Maine.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I don't think people have been assuming Obama will win. Usually, people seem to be taking the reasonable position, that no one really knows enough about Maine to say (and Maine is pretty unpredictable). A lot of Maine is like the non-suburban/urban areas of New Hampshire, which Obama won, but it also has a higher number of French Canadians, who preferred Clinton.

What may be the deciding factor is who visits the state: Obama is visiting, but Clinton is not.

When and where is he visiting?

Tomorrow. Bangor, I believe.

Not so. If he was I think the local press would have picked up on it and they haven't.

Ah no, wrong Bangor. My apologies

[Aizen]

do i have this right?  the caucus is on a sunday?

i find that offensive.  i find the whole concept of a caucus offensive actually,

Nobody cares.


Also, Obama *should* win but it's not 100% sure.

[exopolitician]

do i have this right?  the caucus is on a sunday?

i find that offensive.  i find the whole concept of a caucus offensive actually,

Nobody cares.


Also, Obama *should* win but it's not 100% sure.

I dont see why caucuses are so offending to you, have you had a bad experience at one? Or is it blatantly because your candidate does so bad in them [besides Nevada?]...im really curious.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

do i have this right?  the caucus is on a sunday?

i find that offensive.  i find the whole concept of a caucus offensive actually,

Nobody cares.

^^^^^^^

Walter also seems to forget that most caucuses do not require you attend to vote. You can just vote and leave.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I dont see why caucuses are so offending to you, have you had a bad experience at one? Or is it blatantly because your candidate does so bad in them [besides Nevada?]...im really curious.

In Walter's case it's probably the second, but there are good reasons for finding caucues offensive.

[Lief 🗽]

I don't think people have been assuming Obama will win. Usually, people seem to be taking the reasonable position, that no one really knows enough about Maine to say (and Maine is pretty unpredictable). A lot of Maine is like the non-suburban/urban areas of New Hampshire, which Obama won, but it also has a higher number of French Canadians, who preferred Clinton.

What may be the deciding factor is who visits the state: Obama is visiting, but Clinton is not.

When and where is he visiting?

Tomorrow. Bangor, I believe.

Not so. If he was I think the local press would have picked up on it and they haven't.

Ah no, wrong Bangor. My apologies

Nasty side-effect of naming all the cities in the Northeast after British ones.

[Stranger in a strange land]

do i have this right?  the caucus is on a sunday?

i find that offensive.  i find the whole concept of a caucus offensive actually,

what  happens if a person has a religious service scheduled at the same time as the caucus?

anyone ever think of that?

Church doesnt run all day, and Caucus's dont end till 8 [usually...right?]

Plus arent alot of Caucus locations churches anyways? It fits!

also, what if election day is Tuesday someone has to work all day on Tuesday?

[exopolitician]

do i have this right?  the caucus is on a sunday?

i find that offensive.  i find the whole concept of a caucus offensive actually,

what  happens if a person has a religious service scheduled at the same time as the caucus?

anyone ever think of that?

Church doesnt run all day, and Caucus's dont end till 8 [usually...right?]

Plus arent alot of Caucus locations churches anyways? It fits!

also, what if election day is Tuesday someone has to work all day on Tuesday?

Sucks to be them I guess....but obviously if its a Caucus. If its a primary you can vote whenever you can before the polls close.

[© tweed]

Clinton lost all of the caucuses on Feb 5 so badly because she had to desire to organize.  I can't see why this is any different.

[Nutmeg]

The question I have is, is Maine more like the parts of NH Obama won, or the parts Clinton won?

Obama. Obama won the rural parts and the 2nd congressional district. Clinton won due to her margins in exurban Boston.

But what about the French Canadians in the north, paralleling Coos County, NH, which Clinton won?  I'm not an expert on the overall demographics of the state, but at least the portion of Maine across the river from me is like my county of Strafford, NH, with a lot of gritty, blue-collar types.  This was one of Clinton's strongest areas in NH, and this isn't exurban Boston by any means.