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« on: January 29, 2008, 09:55:32 PM »

Why should we stay there?
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 11:48:26 PM »

They have oil.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 12:34:53 PM »


Because...

...we're turning a corner in Iraq?

...if we don't fight them over there, we will fight them over here?

...we still might find the WMD's?

...we still have a chance to replace Saddam Hussein with another dictator?

...they will welcome us as liberators and become democratic capitalists?

...they attacked us on 9-11?

...the President is "the decider", "the commander guy"...NOT YOU!

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 07:32:43 AM »

Because the fact that not going into Iraq may have been a better idea than going into Iraq does not mean that leaving Iraq now is a better option than staying in.

At this point, America probably has more to gain politically from fixing the situation than simply dumping it and letting it go to hell. Secondly, there is something of a moral obligation to take care of the situation.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 01:16:20 PM »

Well, it's become obviously clear that the best strategy to combat terror is to attack the wrong country and to occupy the country long past the opperation has failed. It's foreign policy basics!
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 04:15:10 PM »


We shouldn't.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 01:06:52 PM »

We made it our responsibility and now we're obligated to babysit until the end of time.

Basically, we can't leave because we don't know how. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 02:07:29 PM »

We made it our responsibility and now we're obligated to babysit until the end of time.
Basically, we can't leave because we don't know how. Tongue

...no.  We can't leave because we took it into our own hands and it would be even more irresponsible than going in to leave after things get ugly.
...that means we don't know how to leave. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 02:17:49 PM »

We made it our responsibility and now we're obligated to babysit until the end of time.
Basically, we can't leave because we don't know how. Tongue
...no.  We can't leave because we took it into our own hands and it would be even more irresponsible than going in to leave after things get ugly.
...that means we don't know how to leave. Tongue

No...it doesn't, at all.  Even if we knew how to leave, it would be irresponsible to.  We took their country from them against their will and it's wrong to say, when the going gets tough, that we're going to let them take over.  To put it metaphorically for you, the US took a bundle of tangled string, cut it up and tangled it up more, decided we don't know how to untangle it, and now we want to hand it back in much worse condition than it was before.  We were never asked to untangle that string, but we took it upon ourselves to do so and now it's our job to finish what we started now that we made it so much worse.  It would be wrong to hand back an Iraq, or tangled string, that we made worse against their will.

Like you said, we don't know how to untangle it. Maybe you would agree with me if I said we don't know how to leave without closure or "leaving" it?
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 09:27:27 PM »

The only reason to stay in Iraq is to clean up the mess we have made.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 09:30:55 PM »

Like it or not Iraq and the Middle East may determine your quality of life, and your actual life, over the long term.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 01:25:02 AM »

I think our biggest problem is not introducing chicken nuggets to the Iraqis, they would be quite pacified of we supplied some to them.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 01:43:03 AM »

Like it or not Iraq and the Middle East may determine your quality of life, and your actual life, over the long term.

Yeah. The draft sucks. Otherwise, their oil goes to European markets. That's why so many Europeans opposed the war.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 02:40:23 AM »

No...it doesn't, at all.  Even if we knew how to leave, it would be irresponsible to.  We took their country from them against their will and it's wrong to say, when the going gets tough, that we're going to let them take over.  To put it metaphorically for you, the US took a bundle of tangled string, cut it up and tangled it up more, decided we don't know how to untangle it, and now we want to hand it back in much worse condition than it was before.  We were never asked to untangle that string, but we took it upon ourselves to do so and now it's our job to finish what we started now that we made it so much worse.  It would be wrong to hand back an Iraq, or tangled string, that we made worse against their will.
You forgot to add that there was some jackass making the bundle constantly worse and snipping random wires because he didn't like the way they looked.  We may have made the bundle worse in the scuffle, but we killed the dude that was f--king up the bundle of wires in the first place.  Iraq IS better than it was when we came in BECAUSE Saddam and his pals are all dead, in hiding or in jail.  We may have made the country worse in the meantime, but we've done way more than enough since.  Isn't it the conservatives that were always telling us about the new schools and hospitals and water treatment plants a couple of years ago?  Iraq has much more potential in 2008 than it did in 2002, we did that.  What the hell else do we need to do?  Stay there until they stop blowing each other up?  What if that never happens?  Will the cost in dollars and our young men ever equal the "mess" we've made over there?  The cost of the war is already in the cartoon realm, how many katrillion dollars does it need to cost, how many thousands of Americans must die?  ......


God dang it, now I sound like a freggin Hippy.  Thanks conservatives, you've turned me into what I hate because you all forgot what it means to be conservative.
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