NY PrimR: Survey USA: Giuliani Leads NY by only 3% as McCain Shoots up to Narly 30%

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

New Poll: New York President by Survey USA on 2008-01-10

Summary:

Giuliani:	32%
McCain:	29%
Huckabee:	12%
Romney:	7%
Other:	8%
Undecided:	12%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Giuliani 32%

McCain 29%

Romney 7%

Huckabee 12%

Paul 3%

Thompson 5%

Other/Undecided 12%

[Eraserhead]

haha. wow.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

As awesome as it'd be to see Giuliani get owned in his own home state I still hope he takes it.

[Erc]

As I suspected, my vote may matter, after all. 

Here's to the hope that my vote may help deliver New York's 87 delegates for John McCain.

[Gustaf]

Wow. Nail in the coffin, anyone?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Wow. Nail in the coffin, anyone?

I never for a second believed Giuliani would even be close to winning.

[Eraserhead]

Wow. Nail in the coffin, anyone?

I never for a second believed Giuliani would even be close to winning.

You also thought Edwards was going to win the Democratic nomination up until a few days ago though.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Wow. Nail in the coffin, anyone?

I never for a second believed Giuliani would even be close to winning.

You also thought Edwards was going to win the Democratic nomination up until a few days ago though.

After Iowa - I thought Obama (I wasn't able to update my prediction - Central Michigan lost power after a storm).

[Gabu]

Wow. Nail in the coffin, anyone?

I never for a second believed Giuliani would even be close to winning.

You also thought Edwards was going to win the Democratic nomination up until a few days ago though.

After Iowa - I thought Obama (I wasn't able to update my prediction - Central Michigan lost power after a storm).

Well, see, that's what did it.  I hope you next think Hillary will win so Obama can take Nevada.

[Mr. Morden]

I wish I would have saved some of those quotes from people who were adamant that 1) Giuliani's national lead was insurmountable, and 2) momentum wouldn't be that important this time (because people in the rest of the country would suddenly realize that they shouldn't take their cues from IA or NH, even though IA and/or NH have always been important before).

Anyway, after the two major party nominees are known, I'm going to start a thread for "most absurd predictions that didn't pan out".  There's a lot of great material in the archives of this forum to work with, for anyone who wants to do the digging.

[Gustaf]

I wish I would have saved some of those quotes from people who were adamant that 1) Giuliani's national lead was insurmountable, and 2) momentum wouldn't be that important this time (because people in the rest of the country would suddenly realize that they shouldn't take their cues from IA or NH, even though IA and/or NH have always been important before).

Anyway, after the two major party nominees are known, I'm going to start a thread for "most absurd predictions that didn't pan out".  There's a lot of great material in the archives of this forum to work with, for anyone who wants to do the digging.

In all fairness, those who claimed that early momemtum was insurmountable were also proved wrong by the New Hampshire result. If Romney actually comes back and wins Michigan it's furher proof that the momentum crowd was indeed too hung up on 2004 to see things straight.

[Mr. Morden]

In all fairness, those who claimed that early momemtum was insurmountable were also proved wrong by the New Hampshire result. If Romney actually comes back and wins Michigan it's furher proof that the momentum crowd was indeed too hung up on 2004 to see things straight.

Well yes, there was a group that said that momentum from Iowa alone would determine everything, but I always thought it was kind of silly to assume that that was necessarily going to happen myself.  All I ever said was that momentum from the early states would be important, and the IA & NH results would have an impact on the rest of the race....and I'd say that it clearly has been, at least so far (McCain is leading and Giuliani is down to 9% nationally in the latest Rasmussen poll for crying out loud).

But anyway, yes, there were some silly predictions from people who said that the winner of Iowa was destined to just win everything.

[Gustaf]

In all fairness, those who claimed that early momemtum was insurmountable were also proved wrong by the New Hampshire result. If Romney actually comes back and wins Michigan it's furher proof that the momentum crowd was indeed too hung up on 2004 to see things straight.

Well yes, there was a group that said that momentum from Iowa alone would determine everything, but I always thought it was kind of silly to assume that that was necessarily going to happen myself.  All I ever said was that momentum from the early states would be important, and the IA & NH results would have an impact on the rest of the race....and I'd say that it clearly has been, at least so far (McCain is leading and Giuliani is down to 9% nationally in the latest Rasmussen poll for crying out loud).

But anyway, yes, there were some silly predictions from people who said that the winner of Iowa was destined to just win everything.

The truth always lie in between I guess. As far as my personal opinion goes I'll note that the Guliani of a few months back was leading nationally, had a lot of money, solid leads in most later states and polling at 3rd in Iowa and 2nd in New Hampshire. The Guliani of today is a different issue. Had McCain not risen and stolen all of Guliani's voters I think Guliani would be much more of a contender now than he is.