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« Reply #125 on: January 08, 2008, 08:06:55 PM »

The brilliant Clinton strategy may be working.  Obama shoud've playe the expectations game better. This is the worst mismatch in PR since the Bush team convinced voters Kerry was the best debater since Cicero.
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« Reply #126 on: January 08, 2008, 08:07:50 PM »

The brilliant Clinton strategy may be working.  Obama shoud've playe the expectations game better. This is the worst mismatch in PR since the Bush team convinced voters Kerry was the best debater since Cicero.

The Clintons know how to play the media. Bill's whining about the unfair coverage was designed to make us think that we're not being played.
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« Reply #127 on: January 08, 2008, 08:08:50 PM »

It's easy to day it was a conspiracy of great spin, but I'm not convinced. I think even the HRC team legitimately thought that the race was almost over. Now we see that that was a premature call.
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« Reply #128 on: January 08, 2008, 08:09:35 PM »

And they talk about the people on tradesports overreacting . . .
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« Reply #129 on: January 08, 2008, 08:10:34 PM »

It's easy to day it was a conspiracy of great spin, but I'm not convinced. I think even the HRC team legitimately thought that the race was almost over. Now we see that that was a premature call.

A week ago, Obama winning Iowa by 8 points, and then winning NH would have been game over for her. Clinton knows how to use the media to play the expectations game. It would be nice if she had spent 1% of the effort she has spent to running for President to standing up to Mr. Bush.
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« Reply #130 on: January 08, 2008, 08:12:16 PM »

And they talk about the people on tradesports overreacting . . .

This isn't over-reacting?

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« Reply #131 on: January 08, 2008, 08:12:53 PM »

It's easy to day it was a conspiracy of great spin, but I'm not convinced. I think even the HRC team legitimately thought that the race was almost over. Now we see that that was a premature call.

I think a lot of it was the tears. Obama had an excellent response, but the media only covered Huckabee's reaction, which actually came later.
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« Reply #132 on: January 08, 2008, 08:13:10 PM »

CLINTON 38% 13,618 0  

OBAMA 36% 12,890 0  

EDWARDS 17% 5,965
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« Reply #133 on: January 08, 2008, 08:13:59 PM »

Guys, it's waaaaay too early to start worrying. At this point in Iowa, Edwards was winning by 4 points, with Clinton in second and Obama way behind.
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« Reply #134 on: January 08, 2008, 08:14:57 PM »

37 of 301 Precincts Reporting
January 8, 2008
            

CLINTON   38%   14,028   0   

OBAMA   36%   13,201   0   

EDWARDS   17%   6,176   0   
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« Reply #135 on: January 08, 2008, 08:15:42 PM »

Guys, it's waaaaay too early to start worrying. At this point in Iowa, Edwards was winning by 4 points, with Clinton in second and Obama way behind.
Yeah no kidding. Almost all of the urban areas aren't even reporting.
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« Reply #136 on: January 08, 2008, 08:19:33 PM »

If they're calling it for McCain and not for Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you that the Obama-Clinton race will be closer.
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« Reply #137 on: January 08, 2008, 08:20:24 PM »


CLINTON   40%   14,462   0   

OBAMA   36%   13,201   0   

EDWARDS   17%   6,176   0   
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« Reply #138 on: January 08, 2008, 08:20:31 PM »

If they're calling it for McCain and not for Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you that the Obama-Clinton race will be closer.

You are probably right. Pretty shocking.
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« Reply #139 on: January 08, 2008, 08:20:50 PM »

If they're calling it for McCain and not for Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you that the Obama-Clinton race will be closer.

Its just weird to me that they would call it with just 12% of precincts in....is that normal?
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« Reply #140 on: January 08, 2008, 08:21:00 PM »

If they're calling it for McCain and not for Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you that the Obama-Clinton race will be closer.

Probably.  I just hope they don't spin this for Hillary as the "comeback kid." if she comes in a close second. 
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« Reply #141 on: January 08, 2008, 08:21:10 PM »


CLINTON   40%   14,462   0   

OBAMA   36%   13,201   0   

EDWARDS   17%   6,176   0   

Uggh... come on...
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« Reply #142 on: January 08, 2008, 08:21:18 PM »

Hillary Clinton just "won" the the New Hampshire Primary.  Note the quotes.

She down played her chances, cried at just the right time.  That is going down in the history with Muskie's tears, Reagan's "I paid for this microphone," Dole's "Stop lying about my record," and Bill Clinton's "They can me the Come Back Kid."
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« Reply #143 on: January 08, 2008, 08:21:46 PM »

If they're calling it for McCain and not for Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you that the Obama-Clinton race will be closer.

Probably.  I just hope they don't spin this for Hillary as the "comeback kid." if she comes in a close second. 

Oh, they will, it's just a question of how effective Clinton and her powerful friends are with that sort of lame spin.
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« Reply #144 on: January 08, 2008, 08:22:10 PM »

Oh crap. Well... at what point can we be very worried?
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« Reply #145 on: January 08, 2008, 08:22:26 PM »

If they're calling it for McCain and not for Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you that the Obama-Clinton race will be closer.

Its just weird to me that they would call it with just 12% of precincts in....is that normal?

It's all about statistics.  They have exit polls and the results to base them off of.  And no one's going to call anything until there is only a 1 in 250 chance of them being wrong.
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« Reply #146 on: January 08, 2008, 08:22:40 PM »

If they're calling it for McCain and not for Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you that the Obama-Clinton race will be closer.

Its just weird to me that they would call it with just 12% of precincts in....is that normal?

They use both the current results and exit polling to call it early.  It's a fairly normal arrangement.
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« Reply #147 on: January 08, 2008, 08:22:47 PM »

Not looking good for Obama.  Granted only 13% reporting.
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« Reply #148 on: January 08, 2008, 08:23:25 PM »

Oh crap. Well... at what point can we be very worried?

I'll say 40% before I start panicking.
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« Reply #149 on: January 08, 2008, 08:23:43 PM »

CLINTON 40% 16,739 0  

OBAMA 36% 14,829 0  

EDWARDS 17% 6,993

Clinton is gaining more.
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