Redistricting France

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About time somebody does this (all welcome to help) since our constituencies are the same since 1986. More to come.

I'll be using cantons population from 1999 (last census-data) to make ideal sized constituencies of (exact number to come).

[Filuwaúrdjan]

About time somebody does this (all welcome to help) since our constituencies are the same since 1986.

And aren't those based on the ones that existed (also basically unchanged for decades IIRC) before the brief flirtation with PR in the mid-'80's?

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Using 101,419 as ideal population size. Does it sound decent?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Using 101,419 as ideal population size. Does it sound decent?

What's the average size at the moment?

[minionofmidas]

Copycat.

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Using 101,419 as ideal population size. Does it sound decent?

Average? No idea really. Wiki says 105,600 is the "theoric representativity".

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Copycat.

Hey now! I'm bored too. No fair.

[minionofmidas]

Using 101,419 as ideal population size. Does it sound decent?

Why not just 100,000? Or do you want to keep the no. of constituencies at 577?
Also, there's the matter of undersized departements... do you intend to keep them overrepresented or will you draw districts including parts of more than one departement?

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Using 101,419 as ideal population size. Does it sound decent?

Why not just 100,000? Or do you want to keep the no. of constituencies at 577?
Also, there's the matter of undersized departements... do you intend to keep them overrepresented or will you draw districts including parts of more than one departement?

I'd rather keep 577 for now (although I'll go with whatever comes out by department), some departments will be harder (but I'll think more about that). Of course some are over/under represented by max. 3200 to keep the map actually neat, nice etc.

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Using 101,419 as ideal population size. Does it sound decent?

Why not just 100,000? Or do you want to keep the no. of constituencies at 577?
Also, there's the matter of undersized departements... do you intend to keep them overrepresented or will you draw districts including parts of more than one departement?

After review, I need to include parts of other departments

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Keep in mind the futur constitutionnal reform, and the possible introduction of 30-40 seats elected under proportionnal representation.

[Kevinstat]

Does someone have a link for 1999 census population by department that includes the overseas departments?  Having population data for the French regions would be useful also.  I didn't have much luck with my search of the INSEE site.

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Please keep this thread on topic related only to my redistricting. Not about your opinion on the electoral system, constituencies etc. (This redistricting isn't official in any way, math).

(As for data, just click on 'select a geographic area' on http://www.recensement.insee.fr/RP99/rp99/page_accueil.paccueil?nivgeo=R&theme=ALL&typeprod=ALL&lang=EN)

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I would suggest, for the redistricting, going with one seat for the smallest departement and then make that the ideal constituency size (or else do something similar with the average of the smallest few departements being the ideal constituency size). That won't keep you on 577 seats, of course, but France routinely changes the number of seats in its legislature anyway, much like pretty everywhere except the US.

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Routinely? France has 577 seats since 1986

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Ille-et-Vilaine (Ideally from 100k to 120k)

Circ 01: Ville de Rennes-Ouest (around 1/2 of total pop. of Rennes)
Circ 02: Ville de Rennes-Est (around 1/2 of total pop. of Rennes)
Circ 03: Grand Rennes (103k)
Circ 04: Mordelles-Montfort sur Meu (113k)
Circ 05: Redon (119k)
Circ 06: Fougères-Vitré(114k)
Circ 07: Liffré-Combourg-Hédé (109k)
Circ 08: Saint Malo-Dinard (101k)

+1 constituency

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Cotes d'Armor

Circ 01: Dinan (112k)
Circ 02: Loudéac-Lamballe (105k)
Circ 03: Saint Brieuc (106k)
Cird 04: Guingamp (100k)
Circ 05: Lannion (117k)

No constituency number changes

[minionofmidas]

Circ 03: Grand Rennes (103k)

What do I have to imagine this seat as?  A donut around the other two Rennes seats?

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Circ 03: Grand Rennes (103k)

What do I have to imagine this seat as?  A donut around the other two Rennes seats?

Yup, Rennes suburbs (Bruz, Cesson, etc.)

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Finistere

Circ 01: Brest Est (104k)
Circ 02: Brest Ouest (101k)
Circ 03: Landerneau-Saint Renan (119k)
Circ 04: Morlaix (112k)
Circ 05: Finistere Argoat-Crozon (98k)
Circ 06: Douarnenez (115k)
Circ 07: Quimper (114k)
Circ 08: Concarneau-Quimperle (96k)

No change

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Morbihan

Circ 01: Vannes (102k)
Circ 02: Morbihan Est (106k)
Circ 03: Auray-Port Louis (116k)
Circ 04: Lorient (110k)
Circ 05: Pont Scorff-Morbihan Argoat (108k)
Circ 06: Pontivy-Ploermel (100k)

No change

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Breizh (+1 constituency)

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Bump.

Something caught my ear on the news tonight. A report briefly mentioned that now that Alain Marleix (UMP secretary for elections) has been shifted to the post of Secretary of State for Local Collectivities he would "change the electoral map". Being the only thing the report said on that, I don't know anything more on it but it interests me and I'll check on it.