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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« on: August 04, 2004, 10:15:08 PM »

Bayh won't win the nomination anytime soon, thank God.

So I voted Virginia.
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BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2004, 10:23:18 PM »

Bayh wouldn't even be a strong candidate anyway. He only wins in Indiana because of his family name.

He is extremely unispiring, even worse than Kerry and Gore, who while not the most interesting people on the planet at least are able bring in the liberal wing of the party pretty well, Bayh can not. And his views wouldn't help him in many states, he would have a tough winning populist voters, and might ironically win Indiana and lose Ohio, possibly even Michigan.

He's just lousy overall.
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BRTD
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2004, 10:25:08 PM »

Lack of space is no problem, just look at how far Chicago metro expands out west. Hell, it might reach Richmond at this rate.
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BRTD
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2004, 12:30:26 AM »
« Edited: August 05, 2004, 12:30:49 AM by Better Red Than Dead »

People do spend 2 hours driving to work.  Stafford, VA and Frederick, MD are 2 hour commutes.  Those areas have a lot of cheap land and are growing rapidly.

I SHOULD move to the Twin Cities then. It's less than a 2 hour drive. If I could could fit my school schedule in, it'd work perfectly. Of course I could transfer my job.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,076
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2004, 12:04:46 PM »


Yeah, but can you really call Bayh a Democrat?

Many Dems feel the way you feel so, like BRTD said, he won't win the nomination.

Clinton had very little trouble in 1992.  If Bush gets reelected, look for the Dems to put a moderate ticket up.

Bayh-Stupak 2008!!!!!

Actually, it will probably be Hillary-Bayh.

Bayh is far more conservative than Clinton, plus he's nowhere near as charasmatic or interesting. Read my whole post. Bayh brings nothing to any ticket, he wouldn't help with any state but Indiana, and no Dem could win Indiana anyway.

Hillary will never be nominated. Most Democrats are not crazy about her like all the right wing nuts seem to believe. I have to meet any of these die-hard Hillary fans interestingly.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,076
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2004, 10:30:20 PM »

Bayh, Lieberman, Nelson, Miller, etc, are Democrats for a reason.  They wouldn't find a place in the Republican party, because that party, on the national level, keeps a very strict party line, and these folks would want to cross it in too many places.

Miller doesn't fall into this category. The only reason he's still a Democrat is so people can listen to him when he whines about the party, where if became a Republican he'd just be written off a cheap partisan hack. Your second sentence does not apply to him, since he has voted the Republican party line on almost everything the past two years.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,076
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2004, 10:31:37 PM »

I say Idaho since it's close to a liberal state, Oregon.

um, do you have any clue what the part of Oregon that borders Idaho is like?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,076
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2004, 10:48:45 PM »
« Edited: August 05, 2004, 10:53:53 PM by Better Red Than Dead »

The part of SD that borders Minnesota is actually more liberal than the part of Minnesota it borders, at least the southern part, that's also true of the area around Fargo with the ND/Minnesota border. However the part of Oregon that borders Idaho is just as right wing as Idaho.
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