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« on: November 13, 2007, 12:06:17 PM »

Not just yes, but hell yes.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2007, 12:34:23 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2007, 12:42:57 PM »

No.  They should give them water, hops, malt, sugar, yeast, industrial cleaning products, and an area to cook.  If they can't take it from there they don't deserve to drink.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2007, 05:56:24 PM »

No, just as colleges don't give out food to students who request it. But allowing it to be part of a meal plan or something similar would be fine.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 05:59:27 PM »

No, just as colleges don't give out food to students who request it. But allowing it to be part of a meal plan or something similar would be fine.

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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2007, 06:50:40 PM »

No.  However college students should be allowed to purchase alcohol and special taxes on alcohol products should be abolished.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2007, 07:08:47 PM »

No.  However college students should be allowed to purchase alcohol and special taxes on alcohol products should be abolished.

Alcohol taxes are fine if they're used to pay for damages incurred on public property by drunks or other alcohol-related costs.

Otherwise, sure.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2007, 07:13:22 PM »

No.  However college students should be allowed to purchase alcohol and special taxes on alcohol products should be abolished.

Alcohol taxes are fine if they're used to pay for damages incurred on public property by drunks or other alcohol-related costs.

Otherwise, sure.

Using that logic would you favor placing special taxes on black americans because that population has higher crime rates and welfare dependency rates than other groups? After all you just want to pay for damages and costs incurred....
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 07:57:17 PM »

No.  However college students should be allowed to purchase alcohol and special taxes on alcohol products should be abolished.

Alcohol taxes are fine if they're used to pay for damages incurred on public property by drunks or other alcohol-related costs.

Otherwise, sure.

Using that logic would you favor placing special taxes on black americans because that population has higher crime rates and welfare dependency rates than other groups? After all you just want to pay for damages and costs incurred....

An excellant point from the self proclaimed "whitest man on Atlas".
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 08:13:53 PM »

No.  However college students should be allowed to purchase alcohol and special taxes on alcohol products should be abolished.

Alcohol taxes are fine if they're used to pay for damages incurred on public property by drunks or other alcohol-related costs.

Otherwise, sure.

Using that logic would you favor placing special taxes on black americans because that population has higher crime rates and welfare dependency rates than other groups? After all you just want to pay for damages and costs incurred....

An excellant point from the self proclaimed "whitest man on Atlas".

Thank you. His proposal smacks of taxation for the intent of social control.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 10:49:11 PM »

Why don't we just go all the way and make educational institutions our new place to receive welfare checks?  That seems to be what people want.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2007, 03:05:47 AM »

Why don't we just go all the way and make educational institutions our new place to receive welfare checks?  That seems to be what people want.

I don't have a problem with allowing welfare checks to be picked up at schools.  Less transportation for welfare recipients involved.
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2007, 09:16:05 AM »

Why don't we just go all the way and make educational institutions our new place to receive welfare checks?  That seems to be what people want.

I don't have a problem with allowing welfare checks to be picked up at schools.  Less transportation for welfare recipients involved.

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2007, 04:58:07 AM »

Again, absolutely not!  If they want to put it in stores or meal plans, fine, but colleges, especially like those in Michigan don't need to waste more money.  We've already wasted money on new street signs for old ones that were in fine shape, just not in university colors, a dark room in the dorms when we have one in the art lab, a whole slew of XBox's and other gaming consoles in the newer dorms, an $80,000 per year stipend for the President's wardrobe.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2007, 12:42:05 PM »

No.  However college students should be allowed to purchase alcohol and special taxes on alcohol products should be abolished.

Alcohol taxes are fine if they're used to pay for damages incurred on public property by drunks or other alcohol-related costs.

Otherwise, sure.

Using that logic would you favor placing special taxes on black americans because that population has higher crime rates and welfare dependency rates than other groups? After all you just want to pay for damages and costs incurred....

No, because people do not choose their skin color. They choose to be drunk.

Nice try, please play again.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2007, 12:43:23 PM »

Excise taxes fail epically.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2007, 12:56:37 PM »


And you fail to counter the argument.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2007, 12:58:41 PM »

I only counter valid arguments.
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2007, 01:03:39 PM »


You use that word. I do not think you know what it means.
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2007, 01:06:24 PM »

I do. It means an argument which has a basis in reality. Really why not just stick to arguing constititonal law in the legal forum or am I confusing you with emsworth?
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2007, 01:08:27 PM »

I do. It means an argument which has a basis in reality. Really why not just stick to arguing constititonal law in the legal forum or am I confusing you with emsworth?

No, valid means following from a consistent pattern of logic. Sound means being true, or, as you might say it, "having a basis in reality". Many arguments are valid without being sound.
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2007, 01:10:07 PM »

My point still stands then. You're consistently in favor of exise taxes so it's valid but  your argument isn't sound. THAT better? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2007, 01:11:55 PM »

My point still stands then. You're consistently in favor of exise taxes so it's valid but  your argument isn't sound. THAT better? Roll Eyes

No, it isn't.

You should demonstrate how the argument is unsound. If it is unsound, it must rest on faulty precepts. If you can show that the precepts are false, then you can dismiss the argument.
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2007, 01:14:23 PM »

I should dismiss the argument just because of your quibbling. Taxation to try socially engineering people into not doing something is pure idiocy
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2007, 01:17:36 PM »

I should dismiss the argument just because of your quibbling. Taxation to try socially engineering people into not doing something is pure idiocy

You misconstrue the basis of the argument. That's one strike of faulty reasoning against you. The argument is that alcohol-related incidents should be paid for by alcohol-related taxes. There is nothing about "social engineering" there.

I'm quibbling because it is fun to make you look like the idiot you are.
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