1912 Republican Primary

[TommyC1776]

Could Dave make maps of the 1912 Republican primaries?  I'd like to see them.

I think TR won most of them

If he won most of them how come he didn't recieve the nomination?

[Keystone Phil]

Party bosses at the convention I guess.

[ijohn57s]

Gotta go with Teddy.

[PBrunsel]

Roosevelt won:

Illinois

New Jersey

Pennsylvania

Arkansas

Colorado

New Jersey

California

Oklahoma

Minnesota


LaFollete Won:

Wisconsin

South Dakota


Taft won:

Massachusetts

The results of the 1912 Republcan Primary

[Keystone Phil]

Roosevelt won:

Illinois

New Jersey

Pennsylvania

Arkansas

Colorado

New Jersey

California

Oklahoma

Minnesota


LaFollete Won:

Wisconsin

South Dakota


Taft won:

Massachusetts

The results of the 1912 Republcan Primary

Amazing how different MA was back then. Being the ONLY state that voted for the more conservative candidate in the primaries. Times sure have changed.

[© tweed]

PBrunsel,

Where did you get that information?  Don't tell me you memorized it.

[PBrunsel]

PBrunsel,

Where did you get that information?  Don't tell me you memorized it.

1912 Election website.

[© tweed]

1912 Election website.

Ok.  

Didn't LaFollette endorse Wilson in the general?

[PBrunsel]

1912 Election website.

Ok.  

Didn't LaFollette endorse Wilson in the general?

I thought he backed TR. He may have endorsed Wilson.

[Keystone Phil]

I would think that LaFollette would have supported a fellow Progressive (that fellow Progressive being TR).

[© tweed]

I'm pretty sure he went with Wilson

[acsenray]

Could Dave make maps of the 1912 Republican primaries?  I'd like to see them.

I think TR won most of them

If he won most of them how come he didn't recieve the nomination?

1. There were relatively few primaries.
2. The primaries didn't conclusively determine the makeup of the delegations.

Remember, even in 1968, McCarthy did better in the primaries, but the convention gave the nomination to Humphrey.

[Fritz]

Roosevelt won:

Illinois

New Jersey

Pennsylvania

Arkansas

Colorado

New Jersey

California

Oklahoma

Minnesota


LaFollete Won:

Wisconsin

South Dakota


Taft won:

Massachusetts

The results of the 1912 Republcan Primary

Bur how can that be?  If Roosevelt won so many states in the primary, shouldn't he have been the nominee instead of Taft?

[Keystone Phil]

Roosevelt won:

Illinois

New Jersey

Pennsylvania

Arkansas

Colorado

New Jersey

California

Oklahoma

Minnesota


LaFollete Won:

Wisconsin

South Dakota


Taft won:

Massachusetts

The results of the 1912 Republcan Primary

Bur how can that be?  If Roosevelt won so many states in the primary, shouldn't he have been the nominee instead of Taft?

Back then, didn't the party bosses totally control the convention and the delegates?

[JohnFKennedy]

Roosevelt won:

Illinois

New Jersey

Pennsylvania

Arkansas

Colorado

New Jersey

California

Oklahoma

Minnesota


LaFollete Won:

Wisconsin

South Dakota


Taft won:

Massachusetts

The results of the 1912 Republcan Primary

Bur how can that be?  If Roosevelt won so many states in the primary, shouldn't he have been the nominee instead of Taft?

Primaries didn't mean that much then and so most delegates were free to choose at the convention, very few were allotted by primaries.

[??????????]

They should go back to the old system. It made the conventions far more exciting.

[JohnFKennedy]

They should go back to the old system. It made the conventions far more exciting.

But also gives the candidates less time to campaign for the Presidency, Kerry would have lost out on like 3 months of campaigning if that happened.

It was alright way back when, they didn't do much campaigning really did they back in the early 1900s and the 1800s.

[bejkuy]

Teddy helped set the precident of overstepping the executive powers that we continue to ejoy to this day.

I've read a couple of books on him by Edmund Morris.

I'm no fan of him.  I'm amazed that so many democrats like TR.  You think Bush was a unilalateralist!  Teddy makes Bush look like Chamberlain.  

[??????????]

They should go back to the old system. It made the conventions far more exciting.

But also gives the candidates less time to campaign for the Presidency, Kerry would have lost out on like 3 months of campaigning if that happened.

It was alright way back when, they didn't do much campaigning really did they back in the early 1900s and the 1800s.

Then scrap conventions all together. That way no balloon drops will be screwed up.

[gorkay]

Could Dave make maps of the 1912 Republican primaries?  I'd like to see them.

I think TR won most of them

If he won most of them how come he didn't recieve the nomination?

1. There were relatively few primaries.
2. The primaries didn't conclusively determine the makeup of the delegations.

RFK won more primaries than either of them. In fact, I don't think Humphrey won any. And the only one McCarthy won after RFK's entry into the race was Oregon. To be fair to HHH, though, he entered the race late, after LBJ withdrew. He picked up most of his delegates at state nominating conventions.
Here's a good poll question for you: if RFK hadn't been shot, who would have won the Democratic nomination in 1968? And who would have won the election?

[gorkay]

I accidentally quoted the wrong post, but of course I am talking about 1968, not 1912.