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Josh/Devilman88
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« on: August 01, 2004, 06:45:08 PM »

i am torn on this act Sad .. I mean I see that the bibles say to forgive your ememis. But I think life in jail is way to easy for them...
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2004, 06:50:08 PM »

i am torn on this act Sad .. I mean I see that the bibles say to forgive your ememis. But I think life in jail is way to easy for them...

The bible says capital punishment is acceptable if administered by the government as a punishment for crimes.

Where? I'm not saying you are wrong.. I just need to study up on this issues.
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2004, 06:57:28 PM »

i am torn on this act Sad .. I mean I see that the bibles say to forgive your ememis. But I think life in jail is way to easy for them...

Sigh....and now we get to the intelligent part of the debate, where we try to base our laws on what a bunch of men thousands of years ago might have meant....

I'm not debating anyone. I am just trying to find out for myself. And just because I  believe in God don't mean I am intelligent,  and want to go by the bible.
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2004, 07:02:52 PM »

i am torn on this act Sad .. I mean I see that the bibles say to forgive your ememis. But I think life in jail is way to easy for them...

The bible says capital punishment is acceptable if administered by the government as a punishment for crimes.

Where? I'm not saying you are wrong.. I just need to study up on this issues.

I think he's referring to the laws contained in Leviticus and Deuteronomy in the old testament. However, in the new testament Christ renounces all of that. I maintain my stance that in the end the Bible does not condone death as punishment.

Ok, do you happen to know where it is in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. And where Christ goes against it in the New Testament?
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2004, 07:03:24 PM »

i am torn on this act Sad .. I mean I see that the bibles say to forgive your ememis. But I think life in jail is way to easy for them...

The bible says capital punishment is acceptable if administered by the government as a punishment for crimes.

Where? I'm not saying you are wrong.. I just need to study up on this issues.

I think he's referring to the laws contained in Leviticus and Deuteronomy in the old testament. However, in the new testament Christ renounces all of that. I maintain my stance that in the end the Bible does not condone death as punishment.

Wrong. The New Testament speaks about the state having the right to drawl the sword as well.

Where, if you know can you please give it to me?
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2004, 07:09:48 PM »

Whether or not the bible says it's ok is not the issue here--it's whether it's ok in Atlasia.  So let's get back to debating that.

Sorry, they were helping me out..
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2004, 07:10:20 PM »


Ok thank you, I will study up on this.
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2004, 07:41:21 PM »

the use of capital punishment "by civil magistrates as a legitimate form of punishment for those guilty of murder or treasonous acts that result in death." The death penalty should be used only when there is "clear and overwhelming evidence of guilt," the proposal says. It also calls for "vigilance, justice and equity in the criminal justice system," with capital punishment "applied as justly and as fairly as possible without undue delay, without reference to the race, class or status of the guilty."


OK that is how I am going to believe... Sounds fair, and right to me..
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Josh/Devilman88
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2004, 09:28:59 PM »

And you've gone down in mine.

One major reason why the people don't want others to have life in prison is because, we, the public have to PAY for them when they're in there. We DON'T want them to drain our money so they can have a hotel style life.

If anything make the prisons more like Turkey and then I'd like the bill. Smiley
It actually costs more money to execute a person than to hold them in jail for 30 years (the average legnth on a life sentence), so your point is moot.

But then they get to walk again.. and have another chance to kill again...
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2004, 10:03:04 PM »

I don't know what your definition of a life sentence is josh...

Most life sentences are only for like 20 to 30 years, like harry said.
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2004, 11:08:34 AM »

how about we make the death penalty for child rapers and child killers and mass murders? and the rest can get life? Just an idea....
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2004, 10:07:30 PM »

John F? Tweed? Mike?
One more vote for the Forces of Good, please!



One more vote to get our taxes higher to pay for all the people that will be sentenced to life in prison? Bad idea, vote NAY Senators!
As I have already stated . . . the death penalty is more expensive than housing people for life!!!!!
Though it wouldn't be if it were carried out the StatesRights way.

And the StevenNick way.  Wink
Barbarians.

Humanitarians. Would you want someone who just raped your wife or daughers and took a knife to the throats of your entire family to live a easy life in prison?

Easy life? Being dead is easy, too.

He might like being butt rape too.. so just do it the easy way....  put him to death...
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2004, 10:13:54 PM »

That is the single worst reason for keeping the DP i've ever heard Tongue

It was a joke Tongue
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