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« on: July 29, 2004, 07:55:52 PM »

I'm kind of suprised when Al said he won 32 in Philadelphia. But I am pretty sure he didn't win any in the Twin Cities.

What about these:

NYC
Los Angeles
Chicago
DC
Seattle
San Francisco
Portland, OR
Boston
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2004, 07:57:45 PM »

I know he didn't win any in San Francisco.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2004, 08:00:40 PM »

I'm kind of suprised when Al said he won 32 in Philadelphia.

Yeah I remember you stated that Gore probably won all the Philly precincts. I knew that was wrong. Most of Bush's Philly precincts were from the Northeast (where me and Handzus live). The Northeast is a conservative area so a Bush win in some precincts shouldn't be surprising. There are conservative areas of NYC (not many but a few) so I bet Bush won a couple. DC - probably didn't win any. I'm not sure about the others.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2004, 08:04:30 PM »

Bush undoubtedly won a precinct in NYC, in Staten Island he probably took a bunch.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2004, 01:14:30 AM »

I'm kind of suprised when Al said he won 32 in Philadelphia.
he Northeast is a conservative area so a Bush win in some precincts shouldn't be surprising.

being slightly less Democratic than the rest of Philadelphia doesn't make a place conservative. Especially when it gave Gore a higher percentage than Massachusetts.

my first guesses would be:


NYC - maybe a few on Staten Island
Los Angeles - maybe a couple in the wealthier parts
Chicago - doubtful. the "conservative" parts of there give Democrats "only" about 66%
DC - not likely, even in the heavily white areas
Seattle - very similar to SF, I doubt there was any
San Francisco - no way
Portland, OR - see top above
Boston - I'd be very suprised
Baltimore - maybe a wealthy neighborhood or two, but i doubt it
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2004, 01:16:20 AM »

I'm kind of suprised when Al said he won 32 in Philadelphia.
he Northeast is a conservative area so a Bush win in some precincts shouldn't be surprising.

being slightly less Democratic than the rest of Philadelphia doesn't make a place conservative.

Hey  BRTD...I live here, I think I know just alittle more than you do. Northeast Philadelphia is a conservative part of the city.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2004, 01:30:04 AM »

then why did it vote about 66% for Gore? That's conservative by Philadelphia standards but still more liberal than Massachusetts.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2004, 01:38:41 AM »

then why did it vote about 66% for Gore? That's conservative by Philadelphia standards but still more liberal than Massachusetts.

Yes it's true that Gore won 66% here but if you took a look at where the people of the Northeast stand, it would be clear that they are social conservative people. Now I'm not saying the people of NE Philadelphia are as conservative as the people out in Utah or Wyoming but we are a fairly conservative section of the city. (Also, while Gore did win here, we have a number of conservative Republican local leaders so don't think this is a Dem area because of Gore's 66%)
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2004, 02:14:09 AM »

There are also Dem leaders here such as Tartaglione and Stack for State Senate and McGeehan (conservtive leaning Dem), Butkovitz, Cohen, and Rieger in State House as there are many R's.  KP, if Boyle wins, the R's are going to thin out even more leaving Perzel, O'Brien, and Taylor.  
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2004, 06:46:55 AM »

I'm kind of suprised when Al said he won 32 in Philadelphia.
he Northeast is a conservative area so a Bush win in some precincts shouldn't be surprising.

being slightly less Democratic than the rest of Philadelphia doesn't make a place conservative. Especially when it gave Gore a higher percentage than Massachusetts.

my first guesses would be:


NYC - maybe a few on Staten Island
Los Angeles - maybe a couple in the wealthier parts
Chicago - doubtful. the "conservative" parts of there give Democrats "only" about 66%
DC - not likely, even in the heavily white areas
Seattle - very similar to SF, I doubt there was any
San Francisco - no way
Portland, OR - see top above
Boston - I'd be very suprised
Baltimore - maybe a wealthy neighborhood or two, but i doubt it
NYC - more than just a couple on Staten Island. Gore carried Staten island but this was unusual. Likely a handful of precincts elsewhere as well, but none in the Bronx.
LA - the very far NW of the city is basically Republican, though possibly not in the 2000 presidental election. Certainly some precincts.
Chicago - should be a handful but not many
DC - agree with you here
Baltimore, Boston, Seattle, Portland - not sure. Might be some, might be none
SF - I think that's settled
Twin Cities - what makes you so sure?
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2004, 12:29:13 PM »
« Edited: July 30, 2004, 12:29:48 PM by Better Red Than Dead »

The results for every precinct in Minnesota can be found here: http://elections.sos.state.mn.us/ENR2000_General/elecmenu.htm

I obviously haven't looked over every precinct, but I have through many, and have to find one where Bush even broke 40%. I also know that Gore swept most of the inner suburbs like New Hope and Robbinsdale, so it's unlikely he could win anything in the actual cities since there aren't any real conservative pockets. The Twin Cities area follows standard political geography rules pretty well, you can almost always tell how a city votes from its proximity from the inner city centers.

also I do know for a fact that Norm Coleman didn't win a single precinct in St. Paul, so if couldn't win one in the city he was mayor of, I don't see how Bush could, or win any in the more liberal Minneapolis.

This means that it's likely there are more precincts in the Twin Cities were Bush came in 3rd than 1st Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2004, 12:37:00 PM »

I also looked through every precinct in my city, and out of the 20, Bush only won 2. There were 2 that were actually complete ties, but Nader took heavily in both.

But in our sister city just across the river where I work, Bush and Gore each took 5 each out of 10. Not a shock though since it is much wealthier and has much less minorities.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2004, 01:00:02 PM »

I'm kind of suprised when Al said he won 32 in Philadelphia.
he Northeast is a conservative area so a Bush win in some precincts shouldn't be surprising.

being slightly less Democratic than the rest of Philadelphia doesn't make a place conservative. Especially when it gave Gore a higher percentage than Massachusetts.

my first guesses would be:


NYC - maybe a few on Staten Island
Los Angeles - maybe a couple in the wealthier parts
Chicago - doubtful. the "conservative" parts of there give Democrats "only" about 66%
DC - not likely, even in the heavily white areas
Seattle - very similar to SF, I doubt there was any
San Francisco - no way
Portland, OR - see top above
Boston - I'd be very suprised
Baltimore - maybe a wealthy neighborhood or two, but i doubt it

The wealthy parts of portland are the most democratic.  Things are different in Oregon.  As a person who graduated from HS in Portland, I would be shocked if Bush won a single precint in Portland proper.  Even the suburbs around Portland are heavily dem.  Generally speaking, the only real conservatives in the Northwest are  rural/small town voters.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2004, 02:04:13 AM »

Anyone know about Cincinnati?
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2004, 04:06:04 AM »

Well Bush easily won the county around it, so I don't quite see the point of the question...
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2004, 06:14:37 AM »

Well Bush easily won the county around it, so I don't quite see the point of the question...

Gore won Cincinnati City 60-35, Bush won a lot of precints though.
Question for Bandit: do you know where I can find Kentucky precinct data?
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2004, 06:42:27 AM »

Twin Cities: Bush won just 1 precinct in Minneapolis (Ward 7 Precinct 10) and he won it by 34.74%
He also won a single precinct in St Paul (Ward 1 Precinct 12) but by just 12 votes.

LA: Only have data for LA county (not City), but Bush won a lot of precincts and one Congressional District in LA County.

SF: Bush came within 1 vote of winning a single precinct... but didn't. Gore won every single one.
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2004, 03:53:35 PM »

Question for Bandit: do you know where I can find Kentucky precinct data?

I had some somewhere but I don't know where I got it. All I remember is that Gore won the cities of Covington and Newport. Gore managed to win the tiny community of Silver Grove in Campbell County.
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2004, 03:58:15 PM »

SF: Bush came within 1 vote of winning a single precinct... but didn't.

I know the government of San Francisco at present isn't as liberal as it should be, based on its history as a liberal city, but I'm surprised Bush came this close to winning a precinct of San Francisco. This would have to be some urbane economically conservative types, like stockbrokers or something.
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2004, 05:05:42 PM »

SF: Bush came within 1 vote of winning a single precinct... but didn't.

I know the government of San Francisco at present isn't as liberal as it should be, based on its history as a liberal city, but I'm surprised Bush came this close to winning a precinct of San Francisco. This would have to be some urbane economically conservative types, like stockbrokers or something.

Most large Cities have an upticket area inside City limits that doesn't get spooked by social conservatives in the way that (say) most of Philly's suburbs do.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2004, 05:34:43 PM »

Twin Cities: Bush won just 1 precinct in Minneapolis (Ward 7 Precinct 10) and he won it by 34.74%

I wish I could figure out where that precinct is located exactly. I'm assuming it's a VERY wealthy neighborhood, probably near one of the lakes. That would explain it though, since there are quite a couple suburbs in areas that would make them seem Democratic, but are very Republican because they are extremely wealthy (North Oaks, Sunfish Lake)
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2004, 04:18:27 PM »

There are a few parts of Seattle where Bush might have won a few precincts, maybe Lake City or other parts of N. Seattle, and maybe some in West Seattle?

But still, Gore got nearly 80% in Seattle and I think Nader got more votes than Bush but I'm not sure.
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2004, 05:38:33 PM »

Twin Cities: Bush won just 1 precinct in Minneapolis (Ward 7 Precinct 10) and he won it by 34.74%

I wish I could figure out where that precinct is located exactly. I'm assuming it's a VERY wealthy neighborhood, probably near one of the lakes. That would explain it though, since there are quite a couple suburbs in areas that would make them seem Democratic, but are very Republican because they are extremely wealthy (North Oaks, Sunfish Lake)

Here it is....looks like there is a school or military institution of some sort there.  

http://tinyurl.com/6mf4y

Definitely not high income. See this second map:

http://tinyurl.com/64zkx
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2004, 12:39:14 PM »

I'm not too familiar with that area, but I bet my aunt is. I should ask her what the area around Elliott Park is like.
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2004, 01:43:08 PM »

Hey, Gore probably won my 2000 precinct Grin

But I can't find what precinct I was in, exactly Tongue
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