I have a question for Atlas's pro-lifers..

[Flying Dog]

Abortion is wrong. Plain and Simple.



(Exceptions:Mother's life is in danger, Incest.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Abortion is wrong. Plain and Simple.



(Exceptions:Mother's life is in danger, Incest.

No it's not. What is wrong is overpopulation.

[Flying Dog]

Abortion is wrong. Plain and Simple.



(Exceptions:Mother's life is in danger, Incest.

No it's not. What is wrong is overpopulation.

Easy for you to say since you are no longer in your moms stomach. I think you would be singing a different tune if you were.

[Friz]

Abortion is wrong. Plain and Simple.



(Exceptions:Mother's life is in danger, Incest.

No it's not. What is wrong is overpopulation.

Easy for you to say since you are no longer in your moms stomach. I think you would be singing a different tune if you were.

I don't see your point, as fetuses aren't developed enough to be capable of singing.

[Flying Dog]

Abortion is wrong. Plain and Simple.



(Exceptions:Mother's life is in danger, Incest.

No it's not. What is wrong is overpopulation.

Easy for you to say since you are no longer in your moms stomach. I think you would be singing a different tune if you were.

I don't see your point, as fetuses aren't developed enough to be capable of singing.

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[Flying Dog]

Fetuses aren't sapient.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night, buddy.

[KEmperor]

Abortion is wrong. Plain and Simple.



(Exceptions:Mother's life is in danger, Incest.

No it's not. What is wrong is overpopulation.

Easy for you to say since you are no longer in your moms stomach. I think you would be singing a different tune if you were.

Actually, oral sex cannot produce pregnancies.

Clearly you are doing it wrong.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Inks, the fetus isn't viable until its born so I presume that means you're pro-choice now? You're all about "protecting viable lives" so..

Viable as in - it could live.  Tubal babies can NEVER live - it is PURELY impossible.

So you're saying that God predestines certain women to have an abortion?  Why do you whine so much about it then?  It's part of God's plan.

Saying that life begins before pregnancy is just silly, Inks.  You should care when pregnancy begins, because banning anything that kills a zygote means banning certain types of birth control.  Birth control which reduces the number of abortions.

If your main focus is on viable life, why do you have any interest in abortions performed in the first and most of the second trimester?

No - they choose to - but it's still in God's plan - he COULD stop it if he wanted, he just decided to give us free chioce.

And as I've stated - some birth control mehtods shoudl be banned.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Complete BS. I meant viable as in can live without medical support. Try again.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Complete BS. I meant viable as in can live without medical support. Try again.

I don't care what YOU mean by "viable" - I care what God thinks - because he's the one we have to worry about, not me, and not you.

And "viable" starts at conception.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

If there was a god she wouldn't care about something minor like one world out of many with life. She'd have bigger things to care about.

[Flying Dog]

If there was a god she wouldn't care about something minor like one world out of many with life. She'd have bigger things to care about.

lol, it so stupid i have to laugh at it.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

If there was a god she wouldn't care about something minor like one world out of many with life. She'd have bigger things to care about.

lol, it so stupid i have to laugh at it.

My posts are VIP quality as I am merely a humble man and here to learn. But seriously why would a deity give a damn about what goes on here? It'd be like a human caring endlessly about a small colony of bacteria. As in ridiculous.

[Flying Dog]

If there was a god she wouldn't care about something minor like one world out of many with life. She'd have bigger things to care about.

lol, it so stupid i have to laugh at it.

My posts are VIP quality as I am merely a humble man and here to learn. But seriously why would a deity give a damn about what goes on here? It'd be like a human caring endlessly about a small colony of bacteria. As in ridiculous.

still not taking you seriously,

[Jake]

Now I know that most pro-life people are like "life starts at conception". So what happens in the event of a miscarriage? so does the woman go to hell for "murdering her baby"? After all if life begins at conception a miscarried fetus DOEs have a soul...

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages. The woman certainly wouldn't be held responsible for the death.

[Friz]

Now I know that most pro-life people are like "life starts at conception". So what happens in the event of a miscarriage? so does the woman go to hell for "murdering her baby"? After all if life begins at conception a miscarried fetus DOEs have a soul...

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages. The woman certainly wouldn't be held responsible for the death.

Wow what an awesome God!  The innocent spend eternity in limbo!

[Joe Republic]

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages.

I'm likely to be mistaken, but didn't the Vatican recently (perhaps a year or so ago) announce that this belief was no longer valid?

[Friz]

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages.

I'm likely to be mistaken, but didn't the Vatican recently (perhaps a year or so ago) announce that this belief was no longer valid?

Buh-buh-but, this is supposed to be the infallible word of God!!! How can mere mortals pick and choose what to believe?!

[Gabu]

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages.

I'm likely to be mistaken, but didn't the Vatican recently (perhaps a year or so ago) announce that this belief was no longer valid?

Yes, because "new research" has led to that conclusion.

(i.e., it is no longer considered acceptable to the public for the Vatican to hold that idea)

It was originally stated that unbaptised babies went to hell, then limbo was invented, and now this.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Now I know that most pro-life people are like "life starts at conception". So what happens in the event of a miscarriage? so does the woman go to hell for "murdering her baby"? After all if life begins at conception a miscarried fetus DOEs have a soul...

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages. The woman certainly wouldn't be held responsible for the death.

Wow what an awesome God!  The innocent spend eternity in limbo!

Well, I don't believe in purgatory, so no - they go straight to heaven.

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages.

I'm likely to be mistaken, but didn't the Vatican recently (perhaps a year or so ago) announce that this belief was no longer valid?

Buh-buh-but, this is supposed to be the infallible word of God!!! How can mere mortals pick and choose what to believe?!

Statements from the Vatican and the word of God are 2 different things.

[KEmperor]

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages.

I'm likely to be mistaken, but didn't the Vatican recently (perhaps a year or so ago) announce that this belief was no longer valid?

Buh-buh-but, this is supposed to be the infallible word of God!!! How can mere mortals pick and choose what to believe?!

Statements from the Vatican and the word of God are 2 different things.

Not according to Catholics.

[Friz]

Keep God's law out of my life.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Keep God's law out of my life.

[Jake]

The Catholic belief is that non-baptised children go to purgatory, that would include miscarriages.

I'm likely to be mistaken, but didn't the Vatican recently (perhaps a year or so ago) announce that this belief was no longer valid?

You're probably correct. I stopped paying attention when I stopped attending mass.

[7,052,770]

purgatory is not limbo.  Souls in purgatory are cleansed and then go to Heaven.

Limbo was in effect during the Old Testament when the gates of Heaven were closed to humans, between original sin and the death of Christ.  Moses, etc., went to Limbo until Jesus's death, and then went to Heaven.  Souls don't go to Limbo anymore.