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« on: September 07, 2007, 11:25:13 AM »
« edited: September 07, 2007, 11:31:52 AM by A Torrid Love Affair »

Guns
Gambling
Alcohol sales restrictions
Tobacco
Smoking in public
Tobacco advertising
Strip clubs
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")
Pornography
Prostitution
Fast food
Pop sales in high schools
School uniforms
Marketing to minors
Violence in the media
Sex in the media
Profanity in the media
Suburban development
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 11:27:07 AM »
« Edited: September 07, 2007, 11:32:11 AM by A Torrid Love Affair »

Guns - libertarian
Gambling - libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions - libertarian
Tobacco - authoritarian
Smoking in public - authoritarian
Tobacco advertising - authoritarian
Strip clubs - libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - authoritarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - libertarian
Pornography - libertarian
Prostitution - libertarian
Fast food - libertarian
Pop sales in high schools - libertarian
School uniforms - libertarian
Marketing to minors - libertarian
Violence in the media - libertarian
Sex in the media - libertarian
Profanity in the media - libertarian
Suburban development - authoritarian
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 11:39:15 AM »
« Edited: September 08, 2007, 06:12:32 PM by Volksliberalist »

Libertarian:
Guns, gambling, alcohol sales, tobacco, public smoking, strip clubs, fashion industry (morality), pornography, prostitution, fast food, pop sales in high schools, marketing to minors, violence, sex, profanity in the media

Authoritarian:
Tobacco advertising, fashion industry (eating disorders), suburban development
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 11:48:08 AM »

Guns - libertarian
Gambling -libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions - libertarian
Tobacco - libertarian
Smoking in public - libertarian
Tobacco advertising - libertarian if geared towards adults, authoritarian if towards minors
Strip clubs - libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - libertarian
Pornography - libertarian
Prostitution - libertarian
Fast food - libertarian
Pop sales in high schools - libertarian
School uniforms - libertarian
Marketing to minors - libertarian if the product is legal for consumption by minors
Violence in the media - libertarian
Sex in the media - libertarian
Profanity in the media - libertarian
Suburban development - libertarian
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 12:04:57 PM »

Guns
Gambling
Alcohol sales restrictions
Tobacco
Smoking in public
Tobacco advertising
Strip clubs
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")
Pornography
Prostitution
Fast food
Pop sales in high schools
School uniforms
Marketing to minors
Violence in the media
Sex in the media
Profanity in the media
Suburban development
Libertarian to all except for suburban development. We need to end suburbia ASAP before peak oil forces us to end it anyways.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 12:12:39 PM »

Guns - Centrist - for background checks and licensing, but against restrictions on law-abiding citizens owning assault rifles/handguns.
Gambling - Libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions - Liberatarian - favor allowing at at age 16, at anytime, and any place.
Tobacco - Authoritarian - cigarettes should be completely banned.
Smoking in public - Authoritarian - should be banned.
Tobacco advertising - Authoritarian - should be banned.
Strip clubs - Centrist - block them from certain areas with local zoning regulations, but allow anything inside.
Pornography - Centrist - block it anywhere kids can access.
Prostitution - Authoritarian - continue current policies.
Fast food - Authoritarian - should adhere to strict health requirements, as should other restaraunts.
Soda sales in high schools - Authoritarian - schools should not promote a caffeine/sugar loaded drink.
School uniforms - Authoritarian - school funded uniforms are appropriate.
Marketing to minors - Authoritarian - Nickelodean/Disney should be commercial free.

Violence in the media
Sex in the media - Libertarian - to all three
Profanity in the media

Suburban development - Authoritarian - Sprawl has advanced far enough. Resonable policies should be implemented to plan any further suburban developments to increase density, decrease house square footage, and connect to cities with public transportation.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 01:41:29 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2007, 01:44:21 PM by Blood of a Slave, Heart of a King »

Judge for yourself:

Guns - Should generally be legal for the sane and those without a criminal background.
Gambling - Should be legal, but casino development should be left to communities.
Alcohol sales restrictions - Should be legal at all ages, minors should not be able to actually purchase it though.
Tobacco - Should be legal, minors should not be able to purchase it though.
Smoking in public - Do it in private. No smoking in crowded spaces, bars, etc. It is a health hazard.
Tobacco advertising - Should be legal.
Strip clubs - Should be legal but kept out of residential areas.
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - Should not be regulated.
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - Should not be regulated.
Pornography - Should be legal and uncensored if it contains consenting adults.
Prostitution - Should be legal.
Fast food - Transfats should be banned, and there should be caloric information available so people have an idea what they're getting into. Otherwise, no further regulation.
Pop sales in high schools - Pretty much pointless and may send the wrong message.
School uniforms - Should be implemented at once.
Marketing to minors - Should not be censored by the government, unless it is for a product or service which minors can not legally purchase.
Violence in the media - Should not be censored by the government.
Sex in the media - Should not be censored by the government.
Profanity in the media - Should not be censored by the government.
Suburban development - End the suburbs. There needs to be a move towards sustainable, New Urbanist-style neighborhoods, a return to trains and encouragement of public transportation, and other major reforms.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 02:08:48 PM »

Guns--Better enforcement of current law and some new restrictions on guns with no value other than for killing humans.
Gambling--Lottos are good if the money goes to education, health care, etc. and their use should be expanded
Alcohol sales restrictions--Drinking age lowered to 18
Tobacco--Higher taxes which should be used for education, health care, etc.
Smoking in public--Mostly a local issue, personally repulsive but it should be legal so long as outdoors. Support local bans for restaurants, oppose for bars.
Tobacco advertising--Law as it is now seems fine, maybe some new restrictions on advertising that targets children
Strip clubs--Local issue, up to cities to decide whether to zone for them or not
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)--New restrictions on advertising that targets children and encourages them to be anorexic/bulimic would be good
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")--Law as it is now seems ok
Pornography--Law as it is now seems ok
Prostitution--Should be legal, although mandatory STD testing required for those employed in the field if it becomes an actual business
Fast food--Mandatory disclosure of nutrition information, warning labels, etc.
Pop sales in high schools--Up to the school. Personally feel high schools should allow it, not middle or elementary schools however
School uniforms--Up to the school, overall a bad idea though
Marketing to minors--Definitely much more regulated than advertising to adults, depends on the product though
Violence in the media--Ratings clearly posted
Sex in the media--Ratings clearly posted
Profanity in the media--Ratings clearly posted
Suburban development--Local issue, but zoning that encourages higher density is much preferred
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 02:09:11 PM »

Guns - should all be registered, but the right to buy them should not denied to anybody without a record of handling them irresponsively.
Gambling - legal, restricted, taxed. And not government run.
Alcohol sales restrictions - I'm Libertarian on that.
Tobacco - ditto
Smoking in public - ditto
Tobacco advertising - ditto. Not that I care one jot.
Strip clubs - ditto, mostly.
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - is there a non-authoritarian position available? I'd call both standard positions authoritarian, in their different ways. Of course that goes for a lot of "libertarian" thought anyways, but that's besides the point.
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - extremely libertarian, obviously. Whether young girls want to wear a Burkah or nothing at all to school doesn't matter to me. And what the fashion industry tells them to wear doesn't either.
Pornography - libertarian
Prostitution - libertarian
Fast food - disgusting stuff, but banning it? Just make sure McDonalds stops reaping in the government subsidies.
Pop sales in high schools - libertarian
School uniforms - libertarian
Marketing to minors - there need to be some rules here, oh yes there should. (We're talking *children* here, are we?)
Violence in the media - libertarian
Sex in the media - libertarian
Profanity in the media - very libertarian
Suburban development - stop subsidizing sprawl. That should be almost enough to end it actually. Does that qualify as authoritarian?
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 03:26:13 PM »

Guns:  support banning hand guns  registration and background checks for shotguns and rifles.

Gambling:  all forms of gambling should be legal.

Alcohol sales restrictions:  support the 21 age limit.  do not support any blue laws regarding alcohol.

Tobacco:  a believe in a robust tobacco tax

Smoking in public: not indoors.

Tobacco advertising: support any legal product's right to advertise.

Strip clubs: no position

Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders): no position

Fashion industry (in relation to "morality"): no position

Pornography: no position

Prostitution: oppose

Fast food: support a fast food tax

Pop sales in high schools: no position

School uniforms: support

Marketing to minors: depends on what exactly is being marketed towards minors

Violence in the media:  there is too much

Sex in the media:  there is too much

Profanity in the media:  there is too much

Suburban developmen:  i generally oppose any zoning regulations.  such regulations have been historically used for racist purposes.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 03:37:47 PM »

I'm not sure whether defines as "Authoritian" or "libertarian". Alot of "Libertarians" on this board are really rather Authoritian in their thinking (just anti-goverment - see what Lewis said), I'll just state my rough positions:

Guns: Nothing wrong with anyone over the age of 18, without a criminal or mental health problem history from obtaining a gun. This should be a local issue though. Perhaps plastic bullets instead of live ones though are more desirable.

Gambling: Oppose to goverment subsidizing the Casino industry; local Authorities should put on Tariffs on the amount of money that can be bet upon by a certain individual apart from that should be legal, enforced planning laws should stop any "Las Vegas II" though.

Alcohol sales restrictions: Such is the problem of a libertarian-minded liberal; banning Alcohol sales in Ireland on Good Friday works great on the one hand and makes alot of Dublin alot safer; yet it feels too much of a restriction on liberty. Certainly this should not be an issue for major goverment; local Authorities at best.

Tobacco: Very much not in favour, though I don't see why people should be stopped from killing themselves. Just not bring me in the process (see below.)

Smoking in public: Support Smoking ban in Public places.

Tobacco advertising: Support ban on advertising Tobacco as a temporary stop-gap as a solution to the problem of advertising.

Strip clubs: Don't really care. Is a local matter. Wouldn't want one near me though.

Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders): Is an internal matter for the fashion industry, though I'm not a fan of industries which are based upon exploited people's emotions - whether male or female.

Fashion industry (in relation to "morality"): What's wrong with selling clothes? I'm not sure what you're looking for here. No goverment subsidies regardless.

Pornography: Should be legal in general, but questions should be asked internally about the material if you're a consumer.

Prostitution: Pretty much the same as Pornography. Johns are rather sad people, really. And Opebo-like psychopaths.

Fast food: I hate it; goverment should not fund the industry in any way. The advertising issue is obviously key here; and I'm no fan of marketing people.

Pop sales in high schools: Schools who do this (including my own) amazingly fail in their supposed target of childhood development. But then again I'm no fan of the traditional methods of education.

School uniforms: See above. But I don't really care much about this particular issue

Marketing to minors: People who do this are the low-grade dregs of humanity. Parents who allow their children to be allowed to consume so much advertising as they vegitate behind the TV box are also failures. Advertising to under-12s should certainly be illegal.. not sure otherwise.

Violence in the media: In favour of no regulations.
Sex in the media: In favour of no regulations.
Profanity in the media: In favour of no regulations.

Suburban development: Needs to be limited drastically, in my own city's case Dublin corporation should scrap it's "no high rise" policy in certain parts of the city. Generally development should be limited within 5 kilometres of the normal city boundaries. Whether goverment should do this or not is a more key question.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2007, 03:56:47 PM »

Guns - libertarian
Gambling -libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions - libertarian
Tobacco - libertarian
Smoking in public - libertarian
Tobacco advertising - libertarian if geared towards adults, authoritarian if towards minors
Strip clubs - libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - libertarian
Pornography - libertarian
Prostitution - libertarian
Fast food - libertarian
Pop sales in high schools - libertarian
School uniforms - libertarian
Marketing to minors - libertarian if the product is legal for consumption by minors
Violence in the media - libertarian
Sex in the media - libertarian
Profanity in the media - libertarian
Suburban development - libertarian

^^^^^ (No surprise here.)
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2007, 06:57:10 PM »


Guns - MIXED
Gambling- LIBERTARIAN
Alcohol sales restrictions- NEUTRAL (as in don't care)
Tobacco - LIBERTARIAN
Smoking in public - AUTHORITARIAN
Tobacco advertising - LIBERTARIAN
Strip clubs - LIBERTARIAN
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - AUTHORITARIAN
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - AUTHORITARIAN
Pornography - LIBERTARIAN
Prostitution - LEAN AUTHORITARIAN
Fast food - VERY LIBERTARIAN
Pop sales in high schools eh?
School uniforms - AUTHORITARIAN
Marketing to minors - AUTHORITARIAN
Violence in the media - LIBERTARIAN
Sex in the media - LIBERTARIAN
Profanity in the media - LIBERTARIAN
Suburban development - give it a rest

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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2007, 07:04:21 PM »

you have been sold frail bones and unnatural shapes. thousands of page turning glossy portraits of perfection. alien rotting cover girls. covered to hide their disease. found in bulging medicine cabinets, body image, cosmetic butchers paychecks. they don't care! the business is not beauty it's insecurity. you have been sold! and it's killing you.

Majority Rule - Packaged Poison

Put another way it's the way magazines and fashion shows basically promote models who might as well come from third world countries as the norm, which is directly linked to eating disorders and essentially the fashion industry is killing teenage girls. I like how Spain banned models at fashion shows below a certain size for that reason.

On the other hand I'll never support the religious right's whining about Abercrombie and Fitch and their complaints about the fashion industry essentially not showing women in only burkahs.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 07:07:18 PM »

Well, sure, it's not a good thing, but what would the government do about it?  The Spanish model size restrictions?
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 07:09:42 PM »

Yes. More logical than Walter's fast food tax.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2007, 07:44:40 PM »

Guns-- Libertarian
Gambling-- Libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions-- Libertarian
Tobacco-- Libertarian
Smoking in public-- No response.  One could argue that both sides are both.
Tobacco advertising-- Authoritarian
Strip clubs-- Libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)-- Don't care
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")--  Libertarian
Pornography-- Libertarian
Prostitution-- Libertarian
Fast food-- Libertarian
Pop sales in high schools-- Authoritarian
School uniforms-- Libertarian
Marketing to minors-- Authoritarian
Violence in the media-- Libertarian
Sex in the media-- Libertarian
Profanity in the media-- Libertarian
Suburban development-- Libertarian... doesn't mean I necessarily like/agree with it.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2007, 09:02:22 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2007, 09:10:40 PM by Frodo »

Guns libertarian
Gambling libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions mixed
Tobacco authoritarian
Smoking in public strongly authoritarian
Tobacco advertising authoritarian
Strip clubs libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) authoritarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") libertarian
Pornography libertarian, at least with regard to consenting adults
Prostitution libertarian, as long as it involves consenting adults, and not children
Fast food libertarian
Pop sales in high schools libertarian
School uniforms mixed
Marketing to minors libertarian
Violence in the media libertarian
Sex in the media libertarian
Profanity in the media libertarian
Suburban development authoritarian
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2007, 09:28:02 PM »

Guns - Authoritarian
Gambling - Neither
Alcohol sales restrictions - Authoritarian
Tobacco - Authoritarian
Smoking in public - Authoritarian-leaning
Tobacco advertising - Authoritarian
Strip clubs - Authoritarian-leaning
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - Neither
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - Neither
Pornography - Neither
Prostitution - Authoritarian
Fast food - Neither
Pop sales in high schools - Neither (since they're public schools, we have the leeway to regulate them Tongue)
School uniforms - Neither
Marketing to minors - Authoritarian-leaning
Violence in the media - Authoritarian-leaning
Sex in the media - Authoritarian-leaning
Profanity in the media - Neither
Suburban development - Neither 
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2007, 09:31:05 PM »

Guns libertarian
Gambling libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions mixed
Tobacco authoritarian
Smoking in public strongly authoritarian
Tobacco advertising authoritarian
Strip clubs libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) authoritarian
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") libertarian
Pornography libertarian, at least with regard to consenting adults
Prostitution libertarian, as long as it involves consenting adults, and not children
Fast food libertarian
Pop sales in high schools libertarian
School uniforms mixed
Marketing to minors libertarian
Violence in the media libertarian
Sex in the media libertarian
Profanity in the media libertarian
Suburban development authoritarian

How is your social score positive? Enlighten me plz.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 09:34:16 PM »

Guns - Oppose
Gambling - Support (with certain restrictions)
Alcohol sales restrictions - Oppose
Tobacco - Support
Smoking in public - Support
Tobacco advertising - Support
Strip clubs - Support
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) - WTF?
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") - Support
Pornography - Support
Prostitution - Support
Fast food - Support
Pop sales in high schools - Support
School uniforms - Oppose
Marketing to minors - Oppose
Violence in the media - Support
Sex in the media - Support
Profanity in the media - Support
Suburban development - Support
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2007, 08:33:46 AM »

Guns- lean libertarian
Gambling- libertarian
Alcohol sales restrictions-libertarian
Tobacco- libertarian i guess
Smoking in public- authoritarian
Tobacco advertising- authoritarian
Strip clubs- libertarian
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders)- n/a
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality")- libertarian
Pornography- libertarian
Prostitution- libertarian
Fast food- libertarian.. mostly.
Pop sales in high schools- authoritarian
School uniforms- libertarian
Marketing to minors- ideally, authoritarian
Violence in the media- libertarian
Sex in the media-libertarian
Profanity in the media- libertarian
Suburban development-'authoritarian', if by that you mean get rid of the tax incentives and such that promote the suburban sprawl.
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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2007, 01:16:31 PM »

Guns: depends. not an issue I care about though.
Gambling: neither really. I support gambling being heavily restricted and all that, but I don't support banning it being played in private houses or anything (which is what "authoritarian" would seem to imply).
Alcohol sales restrictions: in terms of age and so on, fairly liberal. In terms of opening hours... not entirely sure (best policy seems to be leaving it up to the local authority in question). In other areas (including marketing, Sunday trading and so on), much more "authoritarian".
Tobacco: smoking age should be higher than drinking age.
Smoking in public: define "public".
Tobacco advertising: should be banned
Strip clubs: local authorities should be allowed to impose as many restrictions as they please (read that with care...)
Fashion industry (in relation to eating disorders) : don't care
Fashion industry (in relation to "morality") : don't care
Pornography: both
Prostitution: both
Fast food: define fast food
Pop sales in high schools: banned
School uniforms: don't really care
Marketing to minors: extremely "authoritarian".
Violence in the media: watersheds are good
Sex in the media: watersheds are good
Profanity in the media: watersheds are good
Suburban development: neither. And strongly neither. Look... a "libertarian" approch to urban (as far as I'm concerned, suburbs are fundamentally urban) development would imply no (or very few) restrictions, yes? Something that is obviously wrong. But at the same time, an authoritarian approach to urban development is just as bad; you should have seen the worst parts of Telford (a planned town close to where I grew up) before they were knocked down. The reason why those areas were as bad as they were, is because they were planned by a bunch of bureaucratic idiots living/working from a nearby palace (no joke, sadly). Democracy is essential in planning.
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2007, 01:20:33 PM »

Suburban development: neither. And strongly neither. Look... a "libertarian" approch to urban (as far as I'm concerned, suburbs are fundamentally urban) development would imply no (or very few) restrictions, yes? Something that is obviously wrong. But at the same time, an authoritarian approach to urban development is just as bad; you should have seen the worst parts of Telford (a planned town close to where I grew up) before they were knocked down. The reason why those areas were as bad as they were, is because they were planned by a bunch of bureaucratic idiots living/working from a nearby palace (no joke, sadly). Democracy is essential in planning.

If you think that's bad, you wouldn't want to see Dublin planning. (Thank you Charlie Haughey and his merry men!)
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2007, 01:27:42 PM »

If you think that's bad, you wouldn't want to see Dublin planning. (Thank you Charlie Haughey and his merry men!)

Oh I have, I have (and there are examples much worse than Telford (which has actually been a success overall; the decision to have a New Town in Telford was a good one, but some of the details...) in the U.K), I just decided to use an example that I know very, very well. That, and the whole palace (which is now part of the Uni of Wolverhampton or something daft) thing.
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