Are people under 25 only conservative because their parents were?

[John Dibble]

Well, it's really a 'subgroup' within the new generation that I disagree with .  I'd like to think those in the young adult group aren't as hateful to deny gays marriage rights.

Which is all fine and dandy, but what is your exact basis for dictating what the new generation is about?

[Friz]

Well, it's really a 'subgroup' within the new generation that I disagree with .  I'd like to think those in the young adult group aren't as hateful to deny gays marriage rights.

Which is all fine and dandy, but what is your exact basis for dictating what the new generation is about?

It's what I think it's about - being more receptive and kinder to those being taken advantage of/unfairly treated, and rectifying mistakes made by the 'old generation'.  Like ceasing the practice of acting on faith/emotion rather than reason (though every generation is guilty of this).

I guess I should post "I think" into every post I make, even though I think that's a given seeing as they're my posts and writing.

[John Dibble]

Well, it's really a 'subgroup' within the new generation that I disagree with .  I'd like to think those in the young adult group aren't as hateful to deny gays marriage rights.

Which is all fine and dandy, but what is your exact basis for dictating what the new generation is about?

It's what I think it's about - being more receptive and kinder to those being taken advantage of/unfairly treated, and rectifying mistakes made by the 'old generation'.  Like ceasing the practice of acting on faith/emotion rather than reason (though every generation is guilty of this).

I guess I should post "I think" into every post I make, even though I think that's a given seeing as they're my posts and writing.

I just think it's presumptuous to project your ideals onto such a broad and diverse group, that's all. I don't necessarily disagree with your ideas though.

[Verily]

I was originally pretty much in perfect agreement with my parents, who are both very liberal and very leftist. I've drifted somewhat rightward, though not conservative, since then, but I'm certainly not right of center (despite what my Matrix score suggests), and I still agree much more often than I disagree with them.

I did have a brief dalliance with the Republicans in college, but I was never really right-wing, just right-wing for a Massachusetts college.

[Jaggerjack]

Well, I have a classmate who was born and raised a Republican.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Why ARE so many people under 25 conservative though?  Conservatives stand against everything the new generation is about.

Who exactly decides what the new generation is about?

People who thinks they know everything.  To say people under 25 are conservate because of their parents is stupid. You could say the very same thing about people being libearl.  I believe that when people are in their teens, yes they believe how their parents do, but once they get out on their own they choose their own views.

Or they never grow out of the ideology of their parents. 

So are you saying everyone who is conservative is only conservative because of their parents being conservative?

[ilikeverin]

Nope, and I'm offended by the assertion that all parents think alike.

Even barring that, my brother was still more conservative than my dad until he went to college (he claims to have shifted left, but I'm suspicious until I see the proof).

[Friz]

Why ARE so many people under 25 conservative though?  Conservatives stand against everything the new generation is about.

Who exactly decides what the new generation is about?

People who thinks they know everything.  To say people under 25 are conservate because of their parents is stupid. You could say the very same thing about people being libearl.  I believe that when people are in their teens, yes they believe how their parents do, but once they get out on their own they choose their own views.

Or they never grow out of the ideology of their parents. 

So are you saying everyone who is conservative is only conservative because of their parents being conservative?

Yes.

[Friz]

Nope, and I'm offended by the assertion that all parents think alike.of).

Well, I don't believe I ever implied that.  My father votes democratic (though has fairly conservative social and economic leanings) while my mother is a God-fearing conservative (who gets hammered every night and never goes to church).

[Ban my account ffs!]

Many are, but to say that all of them are only because their parents are is painting with a brush that's a bit too large. Tons of situations might result in someone with non-conservative parents becoming conservative - for instance some young person might convert to a new religion and their politics might change accordingly.

I think that's kind of obvious.  I don't think anyone honestly believes that EVERY conservative under 25 is conservative ONLY because their parents were.

[Friz]

Many are, but to say that all of them are only because their parents are is painting with a brush that's a bit too large. Tons of situations might result in someone with non-conservative parents becoming conservative - for instance some young person might convert to a new religion and their politics might change accordingly.

I think that's kind of obvious.  I don't think anyone honestly believes that EVERY conservative under 25 is conservative ONLY because their parents were.

It's probably not the only reason, but it's probably the main reason that got them into that kind of thinking.

[Sam Spade]

As I've said before, my mother is essentially an Al clone.  My father used to be more liberal, but with the Clinton era, moved to being more of a Perot person (somewhat like MODU, but more isolationist in foreign policy).

[KEmperor]

You realize what the natural correllary to your little theory is, right?

[SPC]

My parents really didn't really indoctrineate me into libertarianism wth conservative leanings. They just pretty much psuhed the dominoes toward that way of thought. In other words, they helped me learn how to analytically think about things.

[Joe Republic]

You realize what the natural correllary to your little theory is, right?

What on earth do heart attacks have to do with this topic?

[Friz]

You realize what the natural correllary to your little theory is, right?

What on earth do heart attacks have to do with this topic?

Yeah I was wondering that myself.

[KEmperor]

You realize what the natural correllary to your little theory is, right?

What on earth do heart attacks have to do with this topic?

Obviously SOMEONE has no position on health care.

[John Dibble]

Many are, but to say that all of them are only because their parents are is painting with a brush that's a bit too large. Tons of situations might result in someone with non-conservative parents becoming conservative - for instance some young person might convert to a new religion and their politics might change accordingly.

I think that's kind of obvious.  I don't think anyone honestly believes that EVERY conservative under 25 is conservative ONLY because their parents were.

It's probably not the only reason, but it's probably the main reason that got them into that kind of thinking.

"Probably"? What exactly do you base this probability on? Science or mere supposition? Extending your logic to it's natural conclusion, people only become any political ideology because of their parent's ideology, conservative or not. Are liberals under 25 only liberal because their parents were liberal?

[ilikeverin]

Nope, and I'm offended by the assertion that all parents think alike.of).

Well, I don't believe I ever implied that.  My father votes democratic (though has fairly conservative social and economic leanings) while my mother is a God-fearing conservative (who gets hammered every night and never goes to church).

My mom is a moderate liberal, my dad is a moderate conservative, my brother is (or was) a mainstream conservative, I am a mainstream liberal.  Your "parental socialization" theory in no way explains the partisan makeup of my family.

[Friz]

Nope, and I'm offended by the assertion that all parents think alike.of).

Well, I don't believe I ever implied that.  My father votes democratic (though has fairly conservative social and economic leanings) while my mother is a God-fearing conservative (who gets hammered every night and never goes to church).

My mom is a moderate liberal, my dad is a moderate conservative, my brother is (or was) a mainstream conservative, I am a mainstream liberal.  Your "parental socialization" theory in no way explains the partisan makeup of my family.

There are exceptions to every rule or theory.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Why ARE so many people under 25 conservative though?  Conservatives stand against everything the new generation is about.

Who exactly decides what the new generation is about?

People who thinks they know everything.  To say people under 25 are conservate because of their parents is stupid. You could say the very same thing about people being libearl.  I believe that when people are in their teens, yes they believe how their parents do, but once they get out on their own they choose their own views.

Or they never grow out of the ideology of their parents. 

So are you saying everyone who is conservative is only conservative because of their parents being conservative?

Yes.

That's not my reason.

[John Dibble]

Nope, and I'm offended by the assertion that all parents think alike.of).

Well, I don't believe I ever implied that.  My father votes democratic (though has fairly conservative social and economic leanings) while my mother is a God-fearing conservative (who gets hammered every night and never goes to church).

My mom is a moderate liberal, my dad is a moderate conservative, my brother is (or was) a mainstream conservative, I am a mainstream liberal.  Your "parental socialization" theory in no way explains the partisan makeup of my family.

There are exceptions to every rule or theory.

What exactly is your basis for this theory? As far as I can tell you don't really have much in the way of solid evidence to back it up, in which case your idea isn't even a theory. At best it would be a hypothesis.

[Friz]

Nope, and I'm offended by the assertion that all parents think alike.of).

Well, I don't believe I ever implied that.  My father votes democratic (though has fairly conservative social and economic leanings) while my mother is a God-fearing conservative (who gets hammered every night and never goes to church).

My mom is a moderate liberal, my dad is a moderate conservative, my brother is (or was) a mainstream conservative, I am a mainstream liberal.  Your "parental socialization" theory in no way explains the partisan makeup of my family.

There are exceptions to every rule or theory.

What exactly is your basis for this theory? As far as I can tell you don't really have much in the way of solid evidence to back it up, in which case your idea isn't even a theory. At best it would be a hypothesis.

The basis is how exactly can anyone young be conservative after living through the Clinton and Bush administrations.

[John Dibble]

Nope, and I'm offended by the assertion that all parents think alike.of).

Well, I don't believe I ever implied that.  My father votes democratic (though has fairly conservative social and economic leanings) while my mother is a God-fearing conservative (who gets hammered every night and never goes to church).

My mom is a moderate liberal, my dad is a moderate conservative, my brother is (or was) a mainstream conservative, I am a mainstream liberal.  Your "parental socialization" theory in no way explains the partisan makeup of my family.

There are exceptions to every rule or theory.

What exactly is your basis for this theory? As far as I can tell you don't really have much in the way of solid evidence to back it up, in which case your idea isn't even a theory. At best it would be a hypothesis.

The basis is how exactly can anyone young be conservative after living through the Clinton and Bush administrations.

So just because you fail to understand how someone might think differently than you, you blame it on the parents without any scientific basis whatsoever? Seems pretty hypocritical for someone who said we should act on reason rather than faith and emotion.

[Friz]

Nope, and I'm offended by the assertion that all parents think alike.of).

Well, I don't believe I ever implied that.  My father votes democratic (though has fairly conservative social and economic leanings) while my mother is a God-fearing conservative (who gets hammered every night and never goes to church).

My mom is a moderate liberal, my dad is a moderate conservative, my brother is (or was) a mainstream conservative, I am a mainstream liberal.  Your "parental socialization" theory in no way explains the partisan makeup of my family.

There are exceptions to every rule or theory.

What exactly is your basis for this theory? As far as I can tell you don't really have much in the way of solid evidence to back it up, in which case your idea isn't even a theory. At best it would be a hypothesis.

The basis is how exactly can anyone young be conservative after living through the Clinton and Bush administrations.

So just because you fail to understand how someone might think differently than you, you blame it on the parents without any scientific basis whatsoever? Seems pretty hypocritical for someone who said we should act on reason rather than faith and emotion.

Maybe it should have been "Are people under 25 only conservative because they are weak of mind and can't think for themselves?" then.