Worst US State

[TeePee4Prez]

The worst state politically is Utah. I also strongly detest states that are dominated by rich suburbs, even though they trended Democratic in 2000.

Uhh some fo the Northeast corridor suburbs aren't "rich".  They just have ridiculously priced homes people struggle to pay for with both husband and wife working their butts off for.  A good number of these people are Democratic because they need to keep their jobs!  

[WalterMitty]

new jersey.

suburban wasteland. brownfields and beach walls.  bruce springsteen and annoying 6 hour concerts.

it's also shaped like a peanut.  i find that visually disturbing.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Uhh some fo the Northeast corridor suburbs aren't "rich".

I always thought of suburbs in Maryland, Virginia, and eastern Pennsylvania, as well as California and Florida, as being extremely rich. I always considered everything from northern Virginia to southwestern Connecticut, except for the central cities, as rich.

I visited my relatives who lived outside Philadelphia, and compared to the surroundings there, I seemed like some poor backwoods frontiersman who was born in a log cabin.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

suburban wasteland. brownfields and beach walls.  bruce springsteen and annoying 6 hour concerts.

Camden and Atlantic City are both great cities.

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I think it's shaped more like the elder Bush's head.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

new jersey.

suburban wasteland. brownfields and beach walls.  bruce springsteen and annoying 6 hour concerts.

it's also shaped like a peanut.  i find that visually disturbing.

With my Congressional Districts naming thingy, so far I've found NJ harder to name than Florida or Georgia

[KEmperor]

Uhh some fo the Northeast corridor suburbs aren't "rich".

I always thought of suburbs in Maryland, Virginia, and eastern Pennsylvania, as well as California and Florida, as being extremely rich. I always considered everything from northern Virginia to southwestern Connecticut, except for the central cities, as rich.

I visited my relatives who lived outside Philadelphia, and compared to the surroundings there, I seemed like some poor backwoods frontiersman who was born in a log cabin.

You are sorely mistaken if you think that everyone who lives in the suburbs is rich.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Uhh some fo the Northeast corridor suburbs aren't "rich".

I always thought of suburbs in Maryland, Virginia, and eastern Pennsylvania, as well as California and Florida, as being extremely rich. I always considered everything from northern Virginia to southwestern Connecticut, except for the central cities, as rich.

I visited my relatives who lived outside Philadelphia, and compared to the surroundings there, I seemed like some poor backwoods frontiersman who was born in a log cabin.

You are sorely mistaken if you think that everyone who lives in the suburbs is rich.

Rich is a relative term

[MHS2002]

Massachusetts

[TeePee4Prez]

new jersey.

suburban wasteland. brownfields and beach walls.  bruce springsteen and annoying 6 hour concerts.

it's also shaped like a peanut.  i find that visually disturbing.

NJ is a great state!

[TeePee4Prez]

Uhh some fo the Northeast corridor suburbs aren't "rich".

I always thought of suburbs in Maryland, Virginia, and eastern Pennsylvania, as well as California and Florida, as being extremely rich. I always considered everything from northern Virginia to southwestern Connecticut, except for the central cities, as rich.

I visited my relatives who lived outside Philadelphia, and compared to the surroundings there, I seemed like some poor backwoods frontiersman who was born in a log cabin.

You are sorely mistaken if you think that everyone who lives in the suburbs is rich.

Agreed.  AS i said, people have to work their tails off because of exorbitant real estate prices including parts of Philadelphia such as the Northeast, Center City, Manayunk, and now even parts of West Philly(U City and Overbrook).

[bullmoose88]

Uhh some fo the Northeast corridor suburbs aren't "rich".

I always thought of suburbs in Maryland, Virginia, and eastern Pennsylvania, as well as California and Florida, as being extremely rich. I always considered everything from northern Virginia to southwestern Connecticut, except for the central cities, as rich.

I visited my relatives who lived outside Philadelphia, and compared to the surroundings there, I seemed like some poor backwoods frontiersman who was born in a log cabin.

Handzus (first),

The suburbs are a pretty rich area man. Even the blue collar areas next to philly still have house hold incomes between 50-70k year (probably would have more if the unions were more powerful and the mills were still around). The counties around philly are in the top 10% richest counties in the country (North Jersey is insane...though).

The reason they're fighting to keep their job is that their eyes are little too big for even their wallets. They buy big expensive houses they don't need. (Though small houses even in the blue collar areas are 200k+---yeah insane) they buy big gas guzzling SUVs they don't need (and drive like assholes). They're wealthy, but they're killing themselves with the keeping up with the Joneses mentality. Credit Card Companies love them.

Bandit,

Interesting, where did you visit around Philly?

[??????????]

Bandit,

Florida is not rich. Sure some parts are. But the vast majority of Florida remains rather rural and poor. No impoverished poor but not upper middle class either.

[TeePee4Prez]

Bullmoose88,

The entire Northeast corridor in general is VERY expensive compared to other parts of the country.  Like you said some of these rinky dink split levels and Cape Cods, though singles, are priced over 250K.  Reason being mortgage companies will give a loan to any schmuck with some income because they know they will kill themselves to keep up with the Joneses.  This holds true for Central MD, northern DE, Southeastern PA, most of NJ, NYC area and Long Island.  People are willing to brutalize themselves in these parts because they want a prestigious address and a nice car.

[??????????]

Bullmoose88,

The entire Northeast corridor in general is VERY expensive compared to other parts of the country.  Like you said some of these rinky dink split levels and Cape Cods, though singles, are priced over 250K.  Reason being mortgage companies will give a loan to any schmuck with some income because they know they will kill themselves to keep up with the Joneses.  This holds true for Central MD, northern DE, Southeastern PA, most of NJ, NYC area and Long Island.  People are willing to brutalize themselves in these parts because they want a prestigious address and a nice car.

Its called being "house poor". But I would rather own a slightly overpriced house then rent an apartment, because you get no benefit from living in an apartment. At least with a house in the long run you get what you paid for it and mostly likely loads more.

[specific_name]

least favorite overall.... new jersey

least favorite politically... probably utah or a similar state.

[TeePee4Prez]

Bullmoose88,

The entire Northeast corridor in general is VERY expensive compared to other parts of the country.  Like you said some of these rinky dink split levels and Cape Cods, though singles, are priced over 250K.  Reason being mortgage companies will give a loan to any schmuck with some income because they know they will kill themselves to keep up with the Joneses.  This holds true for Central MD, northern DE, Southeastern PA, most of NJ, NYC area and Long Island.  People are willing to brutalize themselves in these parts because they want a prestigious address and a nice car.

Its called being "house poor". But I would rather own a slightly overpriced house then rent an apartment, because you get no benefit from living in an apartment. At least with a house in the long run you get what you paid for it and mostly likely loads more.

Post #999 for me-

You must also realize property taxes in these areas is also ridiculous.  I mean some places sell 2 BR townhomes for 250K.  Where Bandit lives, or at least parts of KY, he could buy an estate with a few bedrooms for 100K.  It sucks!  I make 34K and still living with parents b/c renting is ridiculous.

[??????????]

Bullmoose88,

The entire Northeast corridor in general is VERY expensive compared to other parts of the country.  Like you said some of these rinky dink split levels and Cape Cods, though singles, are priced over 250K.  Reason being mortgage companies will give a loan to any schmuck with some income because they know they will kill themselves to keep up with the Joneses.  This holds true for Central MD, northern DE, Southeastern PA, most of NJ, NYC area and Long Island.  People are willing to brutalize themselves in these parts because they want a prestigious address and a nice car.

Its called being "house poor". But I would rather own a slightly overpriced house then rent an apartment, because you get no benefit from living in an apartment. At least with a house in the long run you get what you paid for it and mostly likely loads more.

Post #999 for me-

You must also realize property taxes in these areas is also ridiculous.  I mean some places sell 2 BR townhomes for 250K.  Where Bandit lives, or at least parts of KY, he could buy an estate with a few bedrooms for 100K.  It sucks!  I make 34K and still living with parents b/c renting is ridiculous.

Yep I know! My mother lives in northern MD and the houses are outrageous. I make 30k a year live in a 71k dollar house and it's 1300 S.F. Three bedroom 2 1/2 bath. Not to shabby if you ask me.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'd rather live in Camden than any wealthy suburb. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE suburbia.

[MarkDel]

I'd rather live in Camden than any wealthy suburb. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE suburbia.

BetterRed,

If you lived in Camden you'd end up as somebody's Prison Bitch...it's a scary place.

[??????????]

I'd rather live in Camden than any wealthy suburb. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE suburbia.

What about the sticks?

[TeePee4Prez]

I'd rather live in Camden than any wealthy suburb. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE suburbia.

Uhh, NOT ME!!!  Have you ever been to Camden, NJ?  There aren't even parts of Pennsauken, a nearby suburb, that I would live in.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I can only follow impressions, but South Dakota is supposed to be nothing but fields which doesn't sound very appealing.

Sioux Falls wouldn't be a terrible place to live. The state has a lot more barren land than actual fields though, at least the western part. The eastern part is kind of like the part of Minnesota that I live in (although it's not like my urban city of course). Either way anywhere outside of Sioux Falls would be boring as possible.

[??????????]

I can only follow impressions, but South Dakota is supposed to be nothing but fields which doesn't sound very appealing.

Sioux Falls wouldn't be a terrible place to live. The state has a lot more barren land than actual fields though, at least the western part. The eastern part is kind of like the part of Minnesota that I live in (although it's not like my urban city of course). Either way anywhere outside of Sioux Falls would be boring as possible.

I like barren land. I'd love to have a cabin out in the Dakotas.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'd rather live in Camden than any wealthy suburb. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE suburbia.

What about the sticks?

that depends on where it is exactly. I probably could live in a place like Le Seuer county, Minnesota since it's only about an hour's drive from the Twin Cities and would prefer that over a suburban hellhole county like Scott or Carver, but I couldn't live in some spot in the middle of Nebraska.

[Keystone Phil]

In response to something Bandit said a few pages back, Camden is one of the worst cities in the Mid Atlantic region. You do not want to live or even visit that city. Believe me. I can't believe ANYONE would say that Camden is a great city. Then again, Bandit said it so why am I surprised?