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« on: February 05, 2004, 05:00:49 PM »
As Dean's campaign truly does need a win before Super Tuesday, the Washington caucuses and the Maine/Wisconsin primaries have become very important states, Wisconsin mostly. If Dean does pull out a win in any of them, will his campaign be re-vitalized?

If anyone has any polls regarding Wisconsin, post em here.
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2004, 05:03:31 PM »
No. There are so many people out there who think negatively of Dean, it will be difficult for him to break 40% anywhere. Plus he needs money and better advertising.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2004, 05:04:12 PM »
Dean won't win another state unless he stays in for Vermont.

This poll is WAAAAY old:

Dean 33%
(Lieberman 12%)
Clark 11%
(Gephardt 9%)
Kerry 6%
Kucinich 3%
Edwards 2%
(Moseley-Braun 1%)
Sharpton 0%
undecided 22%
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2004, 05:12:25 PM »
Dean has stated that he has to win WI, or his run is over.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2004, 05:50:21 PM »
Quote from: Gustaf on February 05, 2004, 05:12:25 PM
Dean has stated that he has to win WI, or his run is over.
His run is over then.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2004, 06:32:18 PM »
He's not going to win Wisconsin maybe second but I doubt even that. It would be funny if he lost Vermont
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2004, 06:53:57 PM »
It will be funny if he's still in it by Vermont.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2004, 07:12:37 PM »
I'd say its likely that Dean loses WI but if he wins he gets tossed back into the contender category again for how long who knows.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2004, 07:30:53 PM »
If he stays in till Super Tuesday, he could really shake things up (just like he'd do in the white house. man I wish he was still the front-runner) but Kerry's still gonna win. Kerry stole Lieberman's joementum, and there's no stopping him!
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2004, 07:32:37 PM »
I wish he was still the front-runner for the nom. too..
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2004, 07:35:15 PM »
Yeah, I'd love seeing him unseat Bush too, WildCard. Glad we agree on that.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2004, 07:47:43 PM »
Quote from: of_thisnation on February 05, 2004, 07:35:15 PM
Yeah, I'd love seeing him unseat Bush too, WildCard. Glad we agree on that.

ummmm not exactly the outcome I'd predict lol Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2004, 07:59:36 PM »
Dean couldn't beat Bush...I supported Dean for a while, but then I saw that his general election chances were slim and I hopped over to Edwards.  Kerry is a much stronger candidate than Dean, and KErry isn't even a strong candidate,
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2004, 08:39:31 PM »
Dean is DONE. Stick a meat thermometer in him, he's done. He's cooked his own goose.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2004, 11:24:14 AM »
I'm glad Dean stated so emphatically that Wisconsin is a must-win. That will make the end sooner and less painful. I do like the guy though.
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2004, 11:50:37 AM »
Univ. Wisc. telephone survey,  500 people Jan. 27 - Feb. 3 (reported NY Times today):

Kerry 32%
Clark  9%
Dean 8%
Edwards 7%

Dean raised 1/2 million after his announcement/appeal yesterday. He'll have plenty of advertising money in WS, but it does look pretty hopeless.

In future election years, Dean's name will be synonomous with the collapse of front-runners. "Doing a Howard Dean" will be an entry in American dictionaries. His candidacy will be so over-analyzed that we'll all be sick of it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2004, 01:05:22 PM »
Someone should write a bio on him called I have a Scream...
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2004, 02:54:05 PM »
Dean will lose WI to Kerry & Drop out
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2004, 06:18:54 PM »
Quote from: John on February 06, 2004, 02:54:05 PM
Dean will lose WI to Kerry & Drop out

You sure about that, John? Don't you still think Dean can WIN?
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2004, 06:24:45 PM »
That is probably the smartest, and best-spelt, post John has eer made. Don't tease him on it Tongue

Anyone else think it was stupid of Edwards not to go to Michigan? He had a reasonable following there post Iowa, and b/c of the lack of jobs etc there,, he could have managed a second over Dean. It would have also proved that he can do well outide of the south and Iowa Smiley

He might still get second there, actually, but I think Dean will ahng in for it. kerry will win either way by a huge majority.
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2004, 06:52:12 PM »
Quote from: hughento on February 06, 2004, 06:24:45 PM
That is probably the smartest, and best-spelt, post John has eer made. Don't tease him on it Tongue

Anyone else think it was stupid of Edwards not to go to Michigan? He had a reasonable following there post Iowa, and b/c of the lack of jobs etc there,, he could have managed a second over Dean. It would have also proved that he can do well outide of the south and Iowa Smiley

He might still get second there, actually, but I think Dean will ahng in for it. kerry will win either way by a huge majority.

Edwards should have ran hard for 3rd place in New Hampshire. That would have given him a win in Oklahoma and forced Clark out of the race and given Edwards a solid  shot.
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2004, 07:28:13 PM »
perhaps, but his close fourth was acceptable. He really should have spent some tme in Michigan though.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2004, 07:34:01 PM »
Quote from: hughento on February 06, 2004, 07:28:13 PM
perhaps, but his close fourth was acceptable. He really should have spent some tme in Michigan though.

Acceptable, but still killed his campaign I'm afraid.
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2004, 07:55:29 PM »
Quote from: hughento on February 06, 2004, 07:28:13 PM
perhaps, but his close fourth was acceptable. He really should have spent some tme in Michigan though.
Hindsight is 20/20.
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2004, 12:21:21 PM »
dean wouldnt have a chance to win in Wisconsin, i think hell pick up a few delegates there but certainly not a win
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