Biden dropping out countdown

[iceman]

question.

[Progressive Pessimist]

After Trump's sentencing doesn't change anything at the latest. I could see a sort of conpromise where he stays in until that happens. There would still be about a month to spare for the convention.

[iceman]

After Trump's sentencing doesn't change anything at the latest. I could see a sort of conpromise where he stays in until that happens. There would still be about a month to spare for the convention.

just look at it this way: if Trump would be sentenced to jail, how would that go with the public after the talks of Biden’s debate performance in the coming weeks? That would seem like a desperate attempt by the democrats to turnaround the trajectory of the campaign in the eyes of an average voter (who are usually not engaged in politics). I reckon Biden’s flop in the debates would still be a noisier talking point in the months to come over Trump’s jail sentence.

[Green Line]

Probably by the end of the week there will be some sort of announcement.  I think the writing is on the wall.  Obama’s public support is just an attempt to protect Biden’s dignity.  I think behind the scenes things are being decided.  The writing is on the wall for all but the most extreme bloomers (mostly on this message board, weirdly)

[Alben Barkley]

I could see right after the 4th of July. Do the patriotic thing Joe.

[7,052,770]

Either within a week or never. This blows up or blows over.

[Beet]

Within the next two weeks for sure, but possibly as early as tomorrow. They are going to put up a front like they are going 110% full bore and Biden is staying in the race until he's dragged out kicking and screaming until the very last minute, and then all of a sudden he will announce he's out.

[Mr. Smith]

For now, this seems about as likely as a Jimmy Carter drop out just because New York s*&ked.

[Splash]

I still don't think he'll drop out unless his internals over the next few days look really bad.

[VBM]

Either within a week or never. This blows up or blows over.

If Biden really does decide to drop out, he’ll warn top Democratic officials ahead of time so that they can plan ahead accordingly. It might take at least 2 weeks.

[oldtimer]

For now, this seems about as likely as a Jimmy Carter drop out just because New York s*&ked.

Oh I'm convinced it's happening in real time.

You already have complaints from Democrats about a party coup going on, the Family is metting him for "reasons", and the most parroted line is basically:

"I love Biden, he should kill himself"

[oldtimer]

Either within a week or never. This blows up or blows over.

If Biden really does decide to drop out, he’ll warn top Democratic officials ahead of time so that they can plan ahead accordingly. It might take at least 2 weeks.

It's the other way around.

Most suspected that the Primaries where stiched up, so that when they where over Biden would be forced to retire and hand the nomination to whoever was chosen backstage.

The reason was the fear that the real nominee would have trouble winning the primaries.

This was June 11th 2022:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/11/us/politics/biden-2024-election-democrats.html?referringSource=articleShare

[VBM]

For now, this seems about as likely as a Jimmy Carter drop out just because New York s*&ked.

Why does the word "sucked" need to be censored?

[VBM]

For now, this seems about as likely as a Jimmy Carter drop out just because New York s*&ked.

Oh I'm convinced it's happening in real time.

You already have complaints from Democrats about a party coup going on, the Family is metting him for "reasons", and the most parroted line is basically:

"I love Biden, he should kill himself"

Either within a week or never. This blows up or blows over.

If Biden really does decide to drop out, he’ll warn top Democratic officials ahead of time so that they can plan ahead accordingly. It might take at least 2 weeks.

It's the other way around.

Most suspected that the Primaries where stiched up, so that when they where over Biden would be forced to retire and hand the nomination to whoever was chosen backstage.

The reason was the fear that the real nominee would have trouble winning the primaries.

This was June 11th 2022:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/11/us/politics/biden-2024-election-democrats.html?referringSource=articleShare

What are you yapping about?

[oldtimer]

For now, this seems about as likely as a Jimmy Carter drop out just because New York s*&ked.

Oh I'm convinced it's happening in real time.

You already have complaints from Democrats about a party coup going on, the Family is metting him for "reasons", and the most parroted line is basically:

"I love Biden, he should kill himself"

Either within a week or never. This blows up or blows over.

If Biden really does decide to drop out, he’ll warn top Democratic officials ahead of time so that they can plan ahead accordingly. It might take at least 2 weeks.

It's the other way around.

Most suspected that the Primaries where stiched up, so that when they where over Biden would be forced to retire and hand the nomination to whoever was chosen backstage.

The reason was the fear that the real nominee would have trouble winning the primaries.

This was June 11th 2022:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/11/us/politics/biden-2024-election-democrats.html?referringSource=articleShare

What are you yapping about?

That a lot of people expected it.

I posted something months ago (6 months ?) from a Establishment Greek Newspaper, I think my post was "The view from Greece" or something:

The plan was Biden to drop out once the primaries where over, but that there was disagreement about what to do with Harris, that she was too weak to beat Trump but it was difficult to also get rid of her.

Foreign news isn't censored in Greece, so for example we knew beforehand that Brexit and Trump where going to win in 2016 thanks to our foreign correspondents.

[Burke Bro]

It is incredibly troubling to me that no swing state/district Democratic candidates are speaking out on Biden’s debate performance. Normally, they’re a good indication of whether the party is because they provide the rest of the party with cover. From what it sounds like, Brown and Tester, and even Baldwin/CCM/Casey/Slotkin, are preparing to go down with the ship.

[SnowLabrador]

He isn't going to drop out, even if he freefalls in the polls.

[Meclazine for Israel]

He isn't going to drop out, even if he freefalls in the polls.

He doesn't seem that selfish. Surely, he doesn't want the Presidency for the limelight and attention.

[NHI]

He isn't going to drop out, even if he freefalls in the polls.

He doesn't seem that selfish. Surely, he doesn't want the Presidency for the limelight and attention.

Good one.

[Open Source Intelligence]

For now, this seems about as likely as a Jimmy Carter drop out just because New York s*&ked.

Oh I'm convinced it's happening in real time.

You already have complaints from Democrats about a party coup going on, the Family is metting him for "reasons", and the most parroted line is basically:

"I love Biden, he should kill himself"

Either within a week or never. This blows up or blows over.

If Biden really does decide to drop out, he’ll warn top Democratic officials ahead of time so that they can plan ahead accordingly. It might take at least 2 weeks.

It's the other way around.

Most suspected that the Primaries where stiched up, so that when they where over Biden would be forced to retire and hand the nomination to whoever was chosen backstage.

The reason was the fear that the real nominee would have trouble winning the primaries.

This was June 11th 2022:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/11/us/politics/biden-2024-election-democrats.html?referringSource=articleShare

What are you yapping about?

That a lot of people expected it.

I posted something months ago (6 months ?) from a Establishment Greek Newspaper, I think my post was "The view from Greece" or something:

The plan was Biden to drop out once the primaries where over, but that there was disagreement about what to do with Harris, that she was too weak to beat Trump but it was difficult to also get rid of her.

Foreign news isn't censored in Greece, so for example we knew beforehand that Brexit and Trump where going to win in 2016 thanks to our foreign correspondents.

This all falls in line with how the modern-day Democratic Party hates open primaries and openly avoids them like the plague. Can give you countless examples.

My personal opinion was always the plan was for Biden to win reelection, serves a year if that, then forced by his own party to resign for medical reasons. (That was not Biden's plan of course, just stakeholders around him.) I have never believed in the event of a Biden win he would be serving until January 2029. (I'm not certain Trump makes it to January 2029 either.) That this talk is going on now is a private acknowledgement by Democrats they think Biden will instead lose.

[BlueSwan]

I voted within a week because it is the only sane option. But I admit to wishful thinking being part of my vote here.

[Open Source Intelligence]

I voted within a week because it is the only sane option. But I admit to wishful thinking being part of my vote here.

Too early. If he steps out, he'll get some advance notice out there because we're so late in the game and Democrats will want to consolidate around what are they doing next, because it's not necessarily automatically Harris. We'll be for example having an open convention floor vote for the first time in decades.

[TheTide]

I saw the thread title partially. Don't do that!

[Nitos Mederandel]

Honestly, the fallout from the debate has been far too damaging. You cannot survive having half the party and most of the media openly calling on you to withdraw your candidacy. In the future it will seem obvious that he had no option but to go.

[redjohn]

It’s pretty clear to me, from media reports and even the way those around him are wording things (the admission that he is absolutely humiliated and knows the images of him looking senile will live beyond his presidency), that Biden will drop out soon.

I believe Harris will be the annointed nominee, with a handful of delegates going in other candidates’ directions. She can’t be worse than Biden has been, can she?

God, it’s downright cruel that Biden’s inner circle let him get this far. It’s been clear for a long time that he’s put our country in cruise control in large part due to age-related problems. Enough. I hope he drops out at the least, and possibly even resigns. Americans can’t have confidence in our leadership like this.