NBC: Biden to discuss future of campaign with family tomorrow

[AncestralDemocrat.]

Denial?

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1807230395781390788?t=jGHTUi42gnNn3MIzAO3jeQ&...

Just because it was confirmed they were going to Camp David in advance does not mean it was confirmed what they’d be discussing when there in advance. Notice all the denials only point out that first part.

I mean that's the official Biden "response account", not some random.

[Proud Independent]

Denial?

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1807230395781390788?t=jGHTUi42gnNn3MIzAO3jeQ&...

Not a fan of Biden. However, after having one bad debate he should step aside?

That's ing ridiculous. And Biden would be absolutely correct to pissed off for the rest of his life if he's shoved aside for a non-valid reason.  

[Progressive Pessimist]

Denial?

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1807230395781390788?t=jGHTUi42gnNn3MIzAO3jeQ&...

Not a fan of Biden. However, after having one bad debate he should step aside?

That's ing ridiculous. And Biden would be absolutely correct to pissed off for the rest of his life if he's shoved aside for a non-valid reason.  

If Biden's opponent was sane this wouldn't be a five-alarm fire of uncertainty and doom. This is seriously an election that will decide the fate of the world, and every means of Trump not winning it has to be considered.

[NHI]

Country > Ambition

[Agonized-Statism]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

[axiomsofdominion]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

Guess someone didn't read the thread...

[Alben Barkley]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

The whole administration is unpopular. Repudiating it, or at least distancing from it a bit, would be ideal. Running as the change ticket when you’re the incumbent party. Just crazy enough to work.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.

Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.

But your former president being convicted of 34 felonies related to cheating on his pregnant wife with a porn star, and found liable for sexual abuse, is just a boring old Tuesday am I right?

There won’t be any escaping this by pointing limply and saying “See! The Democrats actually got rid of their extremely unpopular nominee and are giving you voters what you want! Now vote for the psychopathic fascist or die!”

The only thing you had going for you was Biden was just that unpopular. That’s gone now. (If he does drop out.) Always said the party that played game theory and picked the new candidate would win. If both did or didn’t, could have been close. But if only one does it won’t be.

Democrats still have the nominate someone in a smooth way otherwise you risk a repeat of 1968. If they do then I agree , the democrats would be favored to hold the White House

[Alben Barkley]

Denial?

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1807230395781390788?t=jGHTUi42gnNn3MIzAO3jeQ&...

Not a fan of Biden. However, after having one bad debate he should step aside?

That's ing ridiculous. And Biden would be absolutely correct to pissed off for the rest of his life if he's shoved aside for a non-valid reason.  

I don’t understand how anyone still thinks the issue is “One bad debate” and not “Oh my god the right’s been right all along, Biden IS unfit for office!”

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

The whole administration is unpopular. Repudiating it, or at least distancing from it a bit, would be ideal. Running as the change ticket when you’re the incumbent party. Just crazy enough to work.

It worked for Buchanan in 1856, but it rather helped that he had defeated the incumbent in the primary.

[Eraserhead]

My respect for Biden would increase significantly if he steps aside for the good of the country.

[Alben Barkley]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

The whole administration is unpopular. Repudiating it, or at least distancing from it a bit, would be ideal. Running as the change ticket when you’re the incumbent party. Just crazy enough to work.

It worked for Buchanan in 1856, but it rather helped that he had defeated the incumbent in the primary.

Well essentially if someone wins at the convention it would be the 1856 version of “winning the primary.”

I’m not gonna lie: Part of me wants to see this just because an old school open convention in 2024 would be f—king awesome to us political junkies.

[Thank you for being a friend...]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

The whole administration is unpopular. Repudiating it, or at least distancing from it a bit, would be ideal. Running as the change ticket when you’re the incumbent party. Just crazy enough to work.

It worked for Buchanan in 1856, but it rather helped that he had defeated the incumbent in the primary.

Well essentially if someone wins at the convention it would be the 1856 version of “winning the primary.”

I’m not gonna lie: Part of me wants to see this just because an old school open convention in 2024 would be f—king awesome to us political junkies.

I'd actually really want to tune into C-SPAN nonstop if that were the case.  That would be as exciting as an actual primary season.

[Mr. Smith]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

The whole administration is unpopular. Repudiating it, or at least distancing from it a bit, would be ideal. Running as the change ticket when you’re the incumbent party. Just crazy enough to work.

It worked for Buchanan in 1856, but it rather helped that he had defeated the incumbent in the primary.

Literally the only time the in-party has still won the election. Every other incumbent involuntarily kicked out has dragged the party down.  

[VBM]

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.

Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.

But your former president being convicted of 34 felonies related to cheating on his pregnant wife with a porn star, and found liable for sexual abuse, is just a boring old Tuesday am I right?

There won’t be any escaping this by pointing limply and saying “See! The Democrats actually got rid of their extremely unpopular nominee and are giving you voters what you want! Now vote for the psychopathic fascist or die!”

The only thing you had going for you was Biden was just that unpopular. That’s gone now. (If he does drop out.) Always said the party that played game theory and picked the new candidate would win. If both did or didn’t, could have been close. But if only one does it won’t be.

Democrats still have the nominate someone in a smooth way otherwise you risk a repeat of 1968. If they do then I agree , the democrats would be favored to hold the White House

These circumstances are not at all comparable.

[Alben Barkley]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

The whole administration is unpopular. Repudiating it, or at least distancing from it a bit, would be ideal. Running as the change ticket when you’re the incumbent party. Just crazy enough to work.

It worked for Buchanan in 1856, but it rather helped that he had defeated the incumbent in the primary.

Literally the only time the in-party has still won the election. Every other incumbent involuntarily kicked out has dragged the party down.  

If he resigns it won’t be involuntary. True LBJ’s party lost in 1968, the most recent time something like this happened, but damn Humphrey made it closer than it had any right to be based on how things looked at the start. If not for Nixon’s light treason, he likely would have won.

[Green Line]

Its over. Congrats President Harris.  Wbrocks, prepare to receive a software update.

[JRP1994]

Beating Biden so badly in the debate that he drops out and then going on to lose to Biden's replacement would be the most hilarious own goal Trump could possibly score

[HagridOfTheDeep]

This is all so sad for Biden. He really shouldn’t have sought re-election.

[Freshly-touched grass]

I'm trying to resist the temptation to view this board for a while, but I have to say I've never truly felt bad for a politician except now. Biden obviously doesn't want the job and while I've criticized him a lot in the past, it's really depressing to see a good man's cognitive decline.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

r/neoliberal is discussing this article and they sound totally Blue MAGA in the comments. Saying no way Biden should withdraw because it would be “the ultimate expression of failure and weakness,” calling NBC “fake news” because of phony Chuck Todd and Kristen Welker… These people have gone insane. How can they not see the irony???

LMAO, I just checked out that thread, and that redditor you're referring to just edited his post to call you out. Any guesses about who his Atlas account is? DrScholl? Mr. X? Landslide Lyndon?

I don’t use Reddit.  Never have, never will

[oldtimer]

Wow, I guess the talk at the top of the party was serious. Guessing they'll circle the wagons around a Harris/Buttigieg ticket so they can still spin the "most successful administration of our lifetimes" narrative- they have to know that if they let an outsider like Whitmer take the nomination, it would look like a repudiation of the whole administration.

The whole administration is unpopular. Repudiating it, or at least distancing from it a bit, would be ideal. Running as the change ticket when you’re the incumbent party. Just crazy enough to work.

It worked for Buchanan in 1856, but it rather helped that he had defeated the incumbent in the primary.

Well essentially if someone wins at the convention it would be the 1856 version of “winning the primary.”

I’m not gonna lie: Part of me wants to see this just because an old school open convention in 2024 would be f—king awesome to us political junkies.

I don't think they want an open convention.

Biden's whole campaign is based on the premise that rocking the boat costs votes.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/emmavigeland/status/1807230859734339614?s=12
Wow this might actually be happening

[Alben Barkley]

https://twitter.com/emmavigeland/status/1807230859734339614?s=12
Wow this might actually be happening

Damn I didn’t realize just how true it was when I said the other night Jill Biden is the most important woman in the world right now.

Please Jill please don’t be the Lady Macbeth the right is portraying you as. Just be a loving wife who wants what’s best for her family and the nation. I know you can see what that is.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Absolutely hilarious if Trump debating Biden forced the latter to drop out.

That was the risk-reward calculation all along for the Biden campaign to have that debate so early.

I'd say that it was worth it. This situation in September or October would have been a plane crashing into a shipwreck while a tornado inside a hurricane happened all around.

Ehh, your incumbent who just won his primary dropping out is a defcon 1 situation nonetheless.

But your former president being convicted of 34 felonies related to cheating on his pregnant wife with a porn star, and found liable for sexual abuse, is just a boring old Tuesday am I right?

There won’t be any escaping this by pointing limply and saying “See! The Democrats actually got rid of their extremely unpopular nominee and are giving you voters what you want! Now vote for the psychopathic fascist or die!”

The only thing you had going for you was Biden was just that unpopular. That’s gone now. (If he does drop out.) Always said the party that played game theory and picked the new candidate would win. If both did or didn’t, could have been close. But if only one does it won’t be.

Democrats still have the nominate someone in a smooth way otherwise you risk a repeat of 1968. If they do then I agree , the democrats would be favored to hold the White House

These circumstances are not at all comparable.

Not exactly but there are some . Progressives have already shown they are willing to break all types of rules and laws to protest on behalf  of “social justice” or “against the corrupt system” . It’s not every hard to imagine a progressive candidate running and a bunch of progressive activists come in large numbers to protest in extremely uncivil ways .

Also you likely will have 5-6 candidates run which could take like 4-5 ballots and it could be worse than that if Dems don’t have minimum % rules in each ballot .

There are many ways this could go wrong which is why until now replacing Biden would have been to high risk . Now since Biden is very likely to lose , it’s worth taking this high risk for the high reward .