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« Reply #175 on: June 15, 2024, 06:45:13 PM »

I prefer Youngkin to Burgum.
If Virginia is truly in play, Youngkin could add the needed point or two.
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« Reply #176 on: June 15, 2024, 06:47:39 PM »

I prefer Youngkin to Burgum.
If Virginia is truly in play, Youngkin could add the needed point or two.


Virginia isn't in play.

Burgum is probably the safest choice for Trump possible. He almost mimics the what Pence offered in 2016. His only real baggage is passing an abortion ban.
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« Reply #177 on: June 15, 2024, 06:55:29 PM »

Hopefully he picks Youngkin
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« Reply #178 on: June 15, 2024, 07:03:36 PM »



Looks like Burgum is the new favorite for this week per "insiders" and betting odds although it could certainly change up again soon.

I think Trump wants his VP to "inherit" the MAGA movement if he wins. I just can't see someone like Tom Cotton doing that. Burgum and Youngkin are relatively clean slates and have a more moderate tone. DeSantis is a firebrand conservative who came in behind Trump and satisfies the base. Ramaswamy and Vance have a more populist tone that could appeal to the working class which is a key demographic Trump's movement was based on. If Trump is actually considering Rubio, I would much rather he pick DeSantis instead, likewise with Ramaswamy instead of Vance. I prefer Burgum to Youngkin but would be happy with either.
Trump has never been that way and never will be. I think he wants someone who doesn’t have presidential ambition at all or wouldn’t be successful (Rubio). He also probably wants someone who could defer to him if he runs again in 2028 (and loses hopefully)
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« Reply #179 on: June 15, 2024, 07:26:48 PM »

I prefer Youngkin to Burgum.
If Virginia is truly in play, Youngkin could add the needed point or two.


Virginia isn't in play.

Burgum is probably the safest choice for Trump possible. He almost mimics the what Pence offered in 2016. His only real baggage is passing an abortion ban.

He should pick Rubio or Youngkin . Rubio is doing outreach to neoconservatives and Youngkin is the best governor in the country
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« Reply #180 on: June 15, 2024, 08:23:55 PM »

I prefer Youngkin to Burgum.
If Virginia is truly in play, Youngkin could add the needed point or two.


Virginia isn't in play.

Burgum is probably the safest choice for Trump possible. He almost mimics the what Pence offered in 2016. His only real baggage is passing an abortion ban.

He should pick Rubio or Youngkin . Rubio is doing outreach to neoconservatives and Youngkin is the best governor in the country

You like him better than DeSantis now?
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« Reply #181 on: June 15, 2024, 08:25:19 PM »

I prefer Youngkin to Burgum.
If Virginia is truly in play, Youngkin could add the needed point or two.


Virginia isn't in play.

Burgum is probably the safest choice for Trump possible. He almost mimics the what Pence offered in 2016. His only real baggage is passing an abortion ban.

He should pick Rubio or Youngkin . Rubio is doing outreach to neoconservatives and Youngkin is the best governor in the country

You like him better than DeSantis now?

I mean he had only been governor for one year in the beginning of 2023 but he was already in my top 3 and DeSantis did spend more of his 2nd term so far running for President so that helped bump Youngkin up.

Both are in the top 2 though
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« Reply #182 on: June 15, 2024, 08:36:48 PM »

I prefer Youngkin to Burgum.
If Virginia is truly in play, Youngkin could add the needed point or two.


Virginia isn't in play.

Burgum is probably the safest choice for Trump possible. He almost mimics the what Pence offered in 2016. His only real baggage is passing an abortion ban.

He should pick Rubio or Youngkin . Rubio is doing outreach to neoconservatives and Youngkin is the best governor in the country

You like him better than DeSantis now?

I mean he had only been governor for one year in the beginning of 2023 but he was already in my top 3 and DeSantis did spend more of his 2nd term so far running for President so that helped bump Youngkin up.

Both are in the top 2 though


Youngkin will lose to Biden and Harris he was losing to Trump for Prez that's why he didn't run in 24
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« Reply #183 on: June 15, 2024, 08:39:56 PM »

I prefer Youngkin to Burgum.
If Virginia is truly in play, Youngkin could add the needed point or two.


Virginia isn't in play.

Burgum is probably the safest choice for Trump possible. He almost mimics the what Pence offered in 2016. His only real baggage is passing an abortion ban.

He should pick Rubio or Youngkin . Rubio is doing outreach to neoconservatives and Youngkin is the best governor in the country

You like him better than DeSantis now?

I mean he had only been governor for one year in the beginning of 2023 but he was already in my top 3 and DeSantis did spend more of his 2nd term so far running for President so that helped bump Youngkin up.

Both are in the top 2 though


Youngkin will lose to Biden and Harris he was losing to Trump for Prez that's why he didn't run in 24

If Youngkin ever got nominated , he would win 340+ EV.
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« Reply #184 on: June 15, 2024, 08:41:01 PM »

Burgum would be such a weak pick for the states Trump's after and the kind of campaign he'll need to run. Surely he's angling for, I dunno, Secretary of Energy or something.
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« Reply #185 on: June 15, 2024, 09:07:07 PM »

Rs haven't won a landslide since 1988
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« Reply #186 on: June 16, 2024, 03:50:45 PM »

Vance wins TPUSA strawpoll overwhelmingly.

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« Reply #187 on: June 16, 2024, 05:16:26 PM »

If I had to bet, I'd say Vance.
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« Reply #188 on: June 16, 2024, 09:31:10 PM »

Vance would be a dumb pick. He would bring nothing to the ticket that isn’t already there.
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« Reply #189 on: June 16, 2024, 09:38:33 PM »


Re: Vance as VP nominee

There was an old (non PC) joke about Bush Sr and Quayle, as to what the Secret Service should do in the case if Bush as POTUS is assassinated.  The answer - immediately shoot Quayle.

Leaving aside the impropriety of the joke, I almost think we would hear a similar version of the joke if Vance was the VP candidate.
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« Reply #190 on: June 16, 2024, 09:45:09 PM »

Vance will be in the headlines every other day with some controversial quote. Because he doesn't have Trump's charisma, the public won't brush it off as easily. Total disaster of a pick.
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« Reply #191 on: June 16, 2024, 10:40:49 PM »

Carson would be a good pick in some senses, but a poor one in others.

Vance would only appeal to a small segment of the far right.

Stefanik strikes me as only locally popular with New York Republicans.

Scott could have appeal.

Burgum would be loyal, but would he add states?

Haley could energize never Trumpers to hold their nose and vote. This could perhaps tip the balance in swing states, but does she have strong national appeal?

Rubio would solidify Florida and perhaps help Texas go over the edge, but what about the swing states?

Trump needs someone, ideally a non-white running mate, who would appeal in the swing states and who wouldn't turn off independent / swing voters.
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« Reply #192 on: June 16, 2024, 10:45:08 PM »

Vance would be catastrophic, and arguably even worse than Palin. He's a disaster in every way. A never-Trump guy who became a Trump devotee once he saw the dollar signs. Everything he says sounds like something a school shooter would say. He'd be a death sentence for the Republican Party going forward, especially since they would be stuck with him as the incumbent president when Trump dies.
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« Reply #193 on: June 16, 2024, 10:58:55 PM »

Vance would be catastrophic, and arguably even worse than Palin. He's a disaster in every way. A never-Trump guy who became a Trump devotee once he saw the dollar signs. Everything he says sounds like something a school shooter would say. He'd be a death sentence for the Republican Party going forward, especially since they would be stuck with him as the incumbent president when Trump dies.

The possibility of a President Vance isn't an issue, because Trump is immortal.
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