Opinion: The Southern Border Immigration Crisis is entirely on President Biden...

[Ancestral Republican]

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .

So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

Well now that's just your opinion, and it's wrong.

Bill was a Trojan horse:

1.It allowed up to 5,000 illegals to enter each day.
2.It increased "border agents", who thanks to Biden's reorganization now mostly refers to people processing asylum claims instead of patrolling the border.

This is One America News tier delusion.

If it was a Trojan horse it wouldn't have had massive bipartisan support including from right wing hardliners.

Get a clue.

Joe Biden is refusing to enforce current immigration laws. You cant blame the legislative branch when you are not doing everything you can under current laws

People have explained further up why this nonsense talking point is false.

[2016]

BREAKING
Senate Majority Leader Schumer wants AMNESTY for all the people who entered the United States of America illegally since President Biden took Office.

He isn't even hiding it anymore.

https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeNans/status/1794105147489980729

The National Republican Senatorial Campaign Cmte needs to run an Ad in Montana & Ohio with this insanity.

[Beet]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

[7,052,770]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

Then there should be no amnesty what so ever .

[GoTfan]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

Then there should be no amnesty what so ever .

You might wanna tell Reagan that.

[Ancestral Republican]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

Then there should be no amnesty what so ever .

What's your argument for why your own family should have been let in this country? Since you're such an immigration hardliner.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

Then there should be no amnesty what so ever .

What's your argument for why your own family should have been let in this country? Since you're such an immigration hardliner.

I am not an illegal immigrant . Demanding legal immigrants support open borders and illegal immigration is actually insulting but peak progressive insanity

[Ancestral Republican]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

Then there should be no amnesty what so ever .

What's your argument for why your own family should have been let in this country? Since you're such an immigration hardliner.

I am not an illegal immigrant . Demanding legal immigrants support open borders and illegal immigration is actually insulting but peak progressive insanity

You are advocating for less immigrants to have pathways to legally come here. Why should you have had that opportunity while you deny that to others?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

Then there should be no amnesty what so ever .

What's your argument for why your own family should have been let in this country? Since you're such an immigration hardliner.

I am not an illegal immigrant . Demanding legal immigrants support open borders and illegal immigration is actually insulting but peak progressive insanity

You are advocating for less immigrants to have pathways to legally come here. Why should you have had that opportunity while you deny that to others?

No I want the overall cap to remain the same except shift to an Australian style point based system . Also my family came here legally not illegally so we never needed amnesty

[lfromnj]

Amnesty is terrible. I love how people try to use the argument that illegal immigrants fund social security but if we give them amnesty we have to pay it out.

[Ancestral Republican]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

Then there should be no amnesty what so ever .

What's your argument for why your own family should have been let in this country? Since you're such an immigration hardliner.

I am not an illegal immigrant . Demanding legal immigrants support open borders and illegal immigration is actually insulting but peak progressive insanity

You are advocating for less immigrants to have pathways to legally come here. Why should you have had that opportunity while you deny that to others?

No I want the overall cap to remain the same except shift to an Australian style point based system . Also my family came here legally not illegally so we never needed amnesty

Your family is a beneficiary of America opening its doors to immigrants when we didn't need to.

Nothing worse than people who try to gatekeep the same system that benefitted them.

[Ancestral Republican]

Amnesty is terrible. I love how people try to use the argument that illegal immigrants fund social security but if we give them amnesty we have to pay it out.

Nothing more libertarian than whining about how people should stay perpetually criminalized.

[Obama24]

There is no border crisis. There's only a crisis of people who fear the demographics of the country changing.

[Benjamin Frank 2.0]

Opinion: the "border crisis" isn't real, or else Republicans wouldn't have killed the Lankford bill to address it. There are some migrants there, but obviously it's not nearly as bad as Republicans claim or they wouldn't let it fester for the next year .

So, 12M Illegal Immigrants have crossed the Southern Border since Biden took Office and that's not bad? I beg your pardon.

The Lankford Bill does absolutely nothing and doesn't get to the bottom of the iceberg.

I believe the 12 million number is those illegals who have been turned back at the border, or turned back after crossing the border, and not the number who have actually entered the United States and stayed.

If you're going to be concerned about something, you should at least get your facts straight.

Under Biden's rule as President is has been measured at around 8.5M new people illegally entering the US. There is an unknown number of people not detected, thought to be 1.7M people.

That gives 10.2M

People turned back is around 500,000 per 9 month period.

That means the 12M is a total figure with roughly 1.8M turned back based on that.

Basically, you have added two states without asking

It's a problem.

Source?

Given that the Pew survey shows 11.5 million total illegals in the U.S, these numbers seem impossibly high.

[All Along The Watchtower]

We have an insanely militarized border already ffs. But I guess having a low-paid workforce over whose heads you can hang the threat of ICE if they dare try to organize is more
important.

[Ferguson97]

Also my family came here legally not illegally so we never needed amnesty

I'll pitch you a hypothetical scenario. Let's just say, for sake of argument, that you discovered that your parents lied to you all your life. Not only did they immigrate here illegally, but you did too. They brought you over here as an infant. All of your legal documents are fraudulent.

What should happen to you? Should you be deported? Should you be given amnesty?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

As I said earlier unless we go out in all our war with Mexico, they are still gonna flood US that's why Bush W introduced the Wall, Trump didn't introduce the Wall it was copied from Bush W.

Cartels bring in a smuggle immigrants even during Trump era, they have tunnel's if you would stop watching Fox and look at MSNBC

TX and FL being red not blue has to do with other issues like being anti Abortion and pro guns than just the border

[Meclazine for Israel]

Source?

Given that the Pew survey shows 11.5 million total illegals in the U.S, these numbers seem impossibly high.

Just type "Southern border expulsions" or "Southern border illegal crossings" into Google.

Every piece of data leads to the same numbers.

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/

I don't know why you are trying to thin the numbers down.

Starting an argument with 'it's not Biden's fault' and then making up numbers to suit will not past muster over time.

And time reveals the same data every week.

[Obama24]

Will repeat:

There is no ''immigration crisis.''

We have allowed Republicans to shape the dialog on this so that the position is played from a defensive one.

There is a humanitarian crisis at the border, and there is obviously a crisis going on in Mexican to the degree that their people are leaving in droves. Maybe we should work on those things before we shut our borders and condemn the people coming here.

[Benjamin Frank 2.0]

Source?

Given that the Pew survey shows 11.5 million total illegals in the U.S, these numbers seem impossibly high.

Just type "Southern border expulsions" or "Southern border illegal crossings" into Google.

Every piece of data leads to the same numbers.

https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/

I don't know why you are trying to thin the numbers down.

Starting an argument with 'it's not Biden's fault' and then making up numbers to suit will not past muster over time.

And time reveals the same data every week.

The 10 million figure is for 'border encounters' not for border crossings. From other data I've seen, over the last 3 or so years, the U.S population has increased by maybe at most 6 million mostly due to legal immigration (and asylum seekers.)

Your claims simply don't make sense from any point of view. From the totals of those who enter the country improperly, who are mostly legal asylum seekers, to the total increase in the U.S population, to the numbers sent by Abbott and DeSantis to 'sanctuary cities' there is no not one shred of evidence that there is any logic to your numerical claims.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Anyone who has been here over 10 years, or who was brought/sent here as a minor and has been here for over 5 years should get amnesty, period.

And anyone who has been here for 5/10 years or less should be deported . No ifs and buts

Both from a funding and a logistical perspective, how? That's an entirely unrealistic fantasy.

Deterrence to people attempting to enter the US illegally has to be re-established.

The amnesties we have granted in the past have only convinced others that all they have to do is crash the border, and another amnesty will happen.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

BREAKING
Senate Majority Leader Schumer wants AMNESTY for all the people who entered the United States of America illegally since President Biden took Office.

He isn't even hiding it anymore.

Hiding what? That he'd make a good Reagan Republican?

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

Will repeat:

There is no ''immigration crisis.''

We have allowed Republicans to shape the dialog on this so that the position is played from a defensive one.

There is a humanitarian crisis at the border, and there is obviously a crisis going on in Mexican to the degree that their people are leaving in droves. Maybe we should work on those things before we shut our borders and condemn the people coming here.

This kind of semantic game is of course useful for differentiating yourself from The Other Side but whenever I see anyone on the left do this it never goes further than that.

Ignoring the existence of bad faith Republicans, what exactly is the solution to this "humanitarian crisis"  for immigrants at the border (which is very clearly not the same thing as a "border immigration crisis")? Obviously long-term solutions are ideal but you can't propose only long-term fixes that will take years to see benefits when the crisis right now needs solutions that take months or weeks to ameliorate the problem.