Trump floats third term at NRA convention

[Burke Bro]

You know, FDR 16 years — almost 16 years — he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/18/trump-at-nra-convention-floats-a-three-term-presidency-00158786

Cant wait to be gaslit for the next four years about how he’s “only joking” and “just being Trump,” only for him to stay in power past January 20, 2028 due to election “irregularities” and defending a third term on the basis of an obscure interpretation of the 22nd amendment.

[Inmate Trump]

He's not joking. He will stay in office beyond what is legal. He'll refuse to leave. His supporters will have learned from their previous failed terrorist attack and do it again on a grander scale.

If Trump wins this year, it will lead to America's end.

[diptheriadan]

It is endlessly funny to me that a half-senile 77-year-old who:

-Has a terrible recruitment record,
-Has a terrible midterm record,
-Has lost as many elections as he has won,
-Is incredibly unpopular with his own party's institutions despite being one of the most popular among his party's base
-Ran literally the most inept, disorganized administrations in modern American history,
-Achieved practically none of his party's goals during a time when they had a friggin' TRIFECTA,

is somehow just going to win and cancel democracy. The GOP does not sh!t these kind of bricks over Biden, s'all i'm saying.

[GAinDC]

It is endlessly funny to me that a half-senile 77-year-old who:

-Has a terrible recruitment record,
-Has a terrible midterm record,
-Has lost as many elections as he has won,
-Is incredibly unpopular with his own party's institutions despite being one of the most popular among his party's base
-Ran literally the most inept, disorganized administrations in modern American history,
-Achieved practically none of his party's goals during a time when they had a friggin' TRIFECTA,

is somehow just going to win and cancel democracy. The GOP does not sh!t these kind of bricks over Biden, s'all i'm saying.

But why even give him the chance?

[Rubensim]

He's not joking. He will stay in office beyond what is legal. He'll refuse to leave. His supporters will have learned from their previous failed terrorist attack and do it again on a grander scale.

If Trump wins this year, it will lead to America's end.

Wasn't 2016 supposed to be the end of democracy?

[Inmate Trump]

It is endlessly funny to me that a half-senile 77-year-old who:

-Has a terrible recruitment record,
-Has a terrible midterm record,
-Has lost as many elections as he has won,
-Is incredibly unpopular with his own party's institutions despite being one of the most popular among his party's base
-Ran literally the most inept, disorganized administrations in modern American history,
-Achieved practically none of his party's goals during a time when they had a friggin' TRIFECTA,

is somehow just going to win and cancel democracy. The GOP does not sh!t these kind of bricks over Biden, s'all i'm saying.

Because Biden has never attempted to overthrow democracy and Trump has.

If you don't understand why people are fearful of Trump's return, then you've been asleep since 2015.

[Rand]

What if I told there was a way to keep him in power…forever?

[Inmate Trump]

He's not joking. He will stay in office beyond what is legal. He'll refuse to leave. His supporters will have learned from their previous failed terrorist attack and do it again on a grander scale.

If Trump wins this year, it will lead to America's end.

Wasn't 2016 supposed to be the end of democracy?

And it wasn't far from that, considering Trump directly attempted to subvert an entire election and suggested even then that he would try to serve longer than 2 terms, made comments degrading military service men and women, suggested the termination of the Constitution, encouraged the murder of his VP, and instigated an insurrection against the US government.

Democracy survived, but Trump did attempt to destroy it.

[MarkD]

You know, FDR 16 years — almost 16 years — he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/18/trump-at-nra-convention-floats-a-three-term-presidency-00158786

Cant wait to be gaslit for the next four years about how he’s “only joking” and “just being Trump,” only for him to stay in power past January 20, 2028 due to election “irregularities” and defending a third term on the basis of an obscure interpretation of the 22nd amendment.

"An obscure interpretation of the 22nd Amendment" like what?

I've decided to use the 22nd to demonstrate to people who don't know the difference between a political opinion and a legal opinion what the difference is.
"I'm entitled to my opinion."
Me: "You're entitled to your political opinion,  you're not entitled to have whatever legal opinion you want to have."
"What's the difference?"
Me: "A political opinion is an opinion a person has about what the law SHOULD BE. A legal opinion is an opinion about what the law IS. Take the 22nd Amendment: if you think it was a mistake and it should be repealed, so that presidents, in the future, can run for third terms and fourth terms and even fifth terms, that is your political opinion and you have a right to think that and to speak about it to try to persuade other people to agree with you. Or you can believe the opposite, which is that the 22nd was an excellent idea, it should not be repealed. You have a right to either of those political opinions. But if you have an opinion that nothing has to be done to the 22nd in order to give a former President - say, Barack Obama - the chance to run for President again, that is a legal opinion of yours. If you think Joe Biden might withdraw from the election this year, soon, and at the Democratic National Convention, the party can - it would be permissible to - nominate Obama, and he could get elected to a third, nonconsecutive term, then that would not be your political opinion, it would be your legal opinion; you are not entitled to have that opinion. Almost everyone else would tell you that you are wrong, you don't know what you're blathering about, and that you are making a fool of yourself. You simply don't have a right to think that and to say it. That's the difference between a political opinion and a legal opinion."

[Former Crackhead Mike Lindell]

He's implying he won in 2020, not that he'll run again in 2028.

[Rubensim]

He's implying he won in 2020, not that he'll run again in 2028.

Honestly agree, Read it and it seem trump is saying that he doesn't know if he running for a second or third term
Basically trump is saying he actually won 2020 so his 2024 campaign might be his third term...?.

[heatcharger]

Interesting!

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

>America will elect a man who's been indicted over 90 times, has promised to be a dictator, has an authoritarian agenda and group of people willing to enable just that, and tried to violently undo the last election, because his opponent is old

Sometimes you can't hate the game. Hate the players.

[DrScholl]

He'd need the military to back him and they aren't going to do that. Once a President's term expires the military can legally ignore the former President and not be in violation of their oath. He could make up his own shadow government but it would be meaningless.

[quesaisje]

"Which Trump term are you on?"

[The Mikado]

61 1 There was added to these causes of offence his insult to the tribunes. It was, namely, the festival of the Lupercalia, of which many write that it was anciently celebrated by shepherds, and has also some connection with the Arcadian Lycaea. 2 At this time many of the noble youths and of the magistrates run up and down through the city naked, for sport and laughter striking those they meet with shaggy thongs. 3 And many women of rank also purposely get in their way, and like children at school present their hands to be struck, believing that the pregnant will thus be helped to an easy delivery, and the barren to pregnancy. 4 These ceremonies Caesar was witnessing, seated upon the rostra on a golden throne, arrayed in triumphal attire. 5 And Antony was one of the runners in the sacred race; for he was consul. Accordingly, after he had dashed into the forum and the crowd had made way for him, he carried a diadem, round which a wreath of laurel was tied, and held it out to Caesar. Then there was applause, not loud, but slight and preconcerted. 6 But when Caesar pushed away the diadem, all the people applauded; and when Antony offered it again, few, and when Caesar declined it again, all, applauded. 7 The experiment having thus failed, Caesar rose from his seat, after ordering the wreath to be carried up to the Capitol; 8 but then his statues were seen to have been decked with royal diadems. So two of the tribunes, Flavius and Maryllus, went up to them and pulled off the diadems, and after discovering those who had first hailed Caesar as king, led them off to prison. 9 Moreover, the people followed the tribunes with applause and called them Brutuses, because Brutus was the man who put an end to the royal succession and brought the power into the hands of the senate and people instead of a sole ruler.​ 10 At this, Caesar was greatly vexed, and deprived Maryllus and Flavius of their office, while in his denunciation of them, although he at the same time insulted the people, he called them repeatedly Brutes and Cymaeans.

Antony putting the crown on Caesar at Lupercal to float the test balloon of monarchy and seeing if the people were ready for it yet...

[TechbroMBA]

He could serve a third term, but not be elected a third time.

There is a theory he (or Obama, Clinton, GW Bush) could be elected VP and have a sock puppet at the top of the ticket who immediately resigns.

[Duke of York]

And if he wins and it’s likely he does Republicans will nominate him for a third term.

[emailking]

I think he's probably not being fully serious there. However, if he wins, as the term wears on I'm sure he will begin looking at ways he can run again or somehow stay in office anyway.

[emailking]

He could serve a third term, but not be elected a third time.

There is a theory he (or Obama, Clinton, GW Bush) could be elected VP and have a sock puppet at the top of the ticket who immediately resigns.

For what it's worth, Clinton at least has said he thinks this scenario is Unconstitutional.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

There won't be a Trump 3rd if the DS lose they deserve 3 Trump terms, by telling Biden and Harris to run, but this is only if they lose

[Frodo]

I think he's probably not being fully serious there. However, if he wins, as the term wears on I'm sure he will begin looking at ways he can run again or somehow stay in office anyway.

He can count on congressional Republicans to back him up if he decides to ignore the 22nd Amendment.  We know his voters are completely on board with this scheme if he goes for it.  After all, they want a King.  

[GeorgiaModerate]

He could serve a third term, but not be elected a third time.

There is a theory he (or Obama, Clinton, GW Bush) could be elected VP and have a sock puppet at the top of the ticket who immediately resigns.

This language in the 12th Amendment seems quite clear:

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

It's an extreme stretch to suggest that this would let someone get around the 22nd Amendment using that scheme.  I can't see the Supreme Court (even the current one) allowing it after the inevitable challenge.

[Oregon Eagle Politics]

Trump nor his supporters are smart enough to end Democracy, thankfully.

[Duke of York]

Trump nor his supporters are smart enough to end Democracy, thankfully.

If he runs for a third term Republicans will nominate him for it.